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	<title>Comments on: CKNW Swallows Premier&#8217;s Bait: Hook, Line &amp; Stinker</title>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/cknw-swallows-premiers-bait-hook-line-stinker/comment-page-1/#comment-3537</link>
		<dc:creator>John M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you are used to listening to Raiffe and a few other good interviewers that NW flushed it&#039;s tough listening to B. Good. His best line ever was when he said &quot;they farm oysters don&#039;t they&quot; Well, when oysters start migrating up the Skeena and Fraser I&#039;ll see his point. I can&#039;t listen to 98 any more so missed the interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you are used to listening to Raiffe and a few other good interviewers that NW flushed it&#8217;s tough listening to B. Good. His best line ever was when he said &#8220;they farm oysters don&#8217;t they&#8221; Well, when oysters start migrating up the Skeena and Fraser I&#8217;ll see his point. I can&#8217;t listen to 98 any more so missed the interview.</p>
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		<title>By: Romeogolf</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/cknw-swallows-premiers-bait-hook-line-stinker/comment-page-1/#comment-3229</link>
		<dc:creator>Romeogolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve largely given up on the mainstream media for being fair and balanced, never mind offering actual news (instead of advertorial, infotainment, and mildly edited press releases). I mostly keep and eye on it to track the disinformation. The blogosphere and independent media are critical to maintaining media democracy (http://democraticmedia.ca/), which is why Net neutrality is vital (http://www.saveournet.ca/). The degree of media concentration in this country is an absolute disgrace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve largely given up on the mainstream media for being fair and balanced, never mind offering actual news (instead of advertorial, infotainment, and mildly edited press releases). I mostly keep and eye on it to track the disinformation. The blogosphere and independent media are critical to maintaining media democracy (<a href="http://democraticmedia.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://democraticmedia.ca/</a>), which is why Net neutrality is vital (<a href="http://www.saveournet.ca/" rel="nofollow">http://www.saveournet.ca/</a>). The degree of media concentration in this country is an absolute disgrace.</p>
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		<title>By: Tired of Lies</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/cknw-swallows-premiers-bait-hook-line-stinker/comment-page-1/#comment-3223</link>
		<dc:creator>Tired of Lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be a cold day in hell before I return to the major news stations to get unbiased reporting on issues.

Sadly the newspapers really aren&#039;t much better.

It would help if there were anti-monopoly laws for papers and news station ownership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be a cold day in hell before I return to the major news stations to get unbiased reporting on issues.</p>
<p>Sadly the newspapers really aren&#8217;t much better.</p>
<p>It would help if there were anti-monopoly laws for papers and news station ownership.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen R</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/cknw-swallows-premiers-bait-hook-line-stinker/comment-page-1/#comment-3147</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on Harvey

Hopefully, this is one of the reasons that people will turn to the &quot;blogosphere&quot; where there are a wide variety of voices and a true diversity of opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on Harvey</p>
<p>Hopefully, this is one of the reasons that people will turn to the &#8220;blogosphere&#8221; where there are a wide variety of voices and a true diversity of opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: BC Mary</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/cknw-swallows-premiers-bait-hook-line-stinker/comment-page-1/#comment-3146</link>
		<dc:creator>BC Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that&#039;s my point:  how could they possibly believe the stuff they wrote?

By the process of elimination, the reader is forced to believe that The Globe and Mail was indeed &quot;following some corporate order or edict&quot;.

My guess is that they picked up a  Press Release and because of the inability of Easterners to understand B.C. matters, they just swallowed the bait without chewing.  

In other words, I cannot see how it would be their own honest view if they had come to it through due diligence. 

I think, too, that they really needed to hear from the British Columbians who rushed into print.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that&#8217;s my point:  how could they possibly believe the stuff they wrote?</p>
<p>By the process of elimination, the reader is forced to believe that The Globe and Mail was indeed &#8220;following some corporate order or edict&#8221;.</p>
<p>My guess is that they picked up a  Press Release and because of the inability of Easterners to understand B.C. matters, they just swallowed the bait without chewing.  </p>
<p>In other words, I cannot see how it would be their own honest view if they had come to it through due diligence. </p>
<p>I think, too, that they really needed to hear from the British Columbians who rushed into print.</p>
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		<title>By: BC Mary</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/cknw-swallows-premiers-bait-hook-line-stinker/comment-page-1/#comment-3139</link>
		<dc:creator>BC Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks for this outstanding column, Harvey. You&#039;re doing something very important for the people of BC and, I hope, the next generation of journalists.  It&#039;s much appreciated. 

Strange to realize that, as Gary E said, we&#039;re creating a whole fresh genre of Alternate Press which is trying to fill the gaps in news coverage. 

It&#039;s not difficult to understand why this is so. Big Media depends upon advertising, advertisers are Big Business and contradictory as it may sound, Big Business is anti-worker.  That much I regretfully understand. 

So while hating it, I sorta halfway grudgingly do get it that CTV, CHEK, Global, and CKNW have totally caved at the feet of Campbell ... but ... 

I absolutely cannot understand why today&#039;s  proud old Globe and Mail would turn its lede editorial into a slavering, slobbering bootlick for BC&#039;s most hated premier. 

Would you talk a bit about that, please?

(Response: It really doesn&#039;t bother me to see anyone taking a particular editorial stance IF they really believe it and are not just following some corporate order or edict, I have no problem with it. It&#039;s their view.  ho)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for this outstanding column, Harvey. You&#8217;re doing something very important for the people of BC and, I hope, the next generation of journalists.  It&#8217;s much appreciated. </p>
<p>Strange to realize that, as Gary E said, we&#8217;re creating a whole fresh genre of Alternate Press which is trying to fill the gaps in news coverage. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not difficult to understand why this is so. Big Media depends upon advertising, advertisers are Big Business and contradictory as it may sound, Big Business is anti-worker.  That much I regretfully understand. </p>
<p>So while hating it, I sorta halfway grudgingly do get it that CTV, CHEK, Global, and CKNW have totally caved at the feet of Campbell &#8230; but &#8230; </p>
<p>I absolutely cannot understand why today&#8217;s  proud old Globe and Mail would turn its lede editorial into a slavering, slobbering bootlick for BC&#8217;s most hated premier. </p>
<p>Would you talk a bit about that, please?</p>
<p>(Response: It really doesn&#8217;t bother me to see anyone taking a particular editorial stance IF they really believe it and are not just following some corporate order or edict, I have no problem with it. It&#8217;s their view.  ho)</p>
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		<title>By: G West</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/cknw-swallows-premiers-bait-hook-line-stinker/comment-page-1/#comment-3133</link>
		<dc:creator>G West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again Mr Oberfeld I find myself thinking that you should come out of retirement and grab one of those microphones.

The current batch of holders seem to have forgotten they aren&#039;t supposed to be cheerleaders.

Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again Mr Oberfeld I find myself thinking that you should come out of retirement and grab one of those microphones.</p>
<p>The current batch of holders seem to have forgotten they aren&#8217;t supposed to be cheerleaders.</p>
<p>Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant g</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/cknw-swallows-premiers-bait-hook-line-stinker/comment-page-1/#comment-3132</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing more too add ---Harv, this is by far the best peice  of telling the truth I have seen in years.

No pandering,just the honest truth, its about time that someone with standing told the MSM  what the people of BC are thinking!

My hats off to you Harv!

P.S.  Keep that up and your likely to get STEAK and SPAGHETTI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing more too add &#8212;Harv, this is by far the best peice  of telling the truth I have seen in years.</p>
<p>No pandering,just the honest truth, its about time that someone with standing told the MSM  what the people of BC are thinking!</p>
<p>My hats off to you Harv!</p>
<p>P.S.  Keep that up and your likely to get STEAK and SPAGHETTI</p>
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		<title>By: Gary E</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/cknw-swallows-premiers-bait-hook-line-stinker/comment-page-1/#comment-3129</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harv

I&#039;d  like to thank you for helping myself and I&#039;m sure others in your in depth writings about the goings on in the Media. It is really refreshing to know that there is someone out there with knowledge of the workings of a reporter. For a couple of years now some of us had been labeled by members of the press as conspiracy theorists. Part of that label came from writings about the Legislature Raids in 2003. ie; Government is hiding things or covering up. But I had noticed that when we started taking the press to task for lack of reporting, that is when the conspiracy theorist thing emerged. 
Most of us are not professional reporters, but average Joe Citizens who see that something is drastically wrong with this government and the press. And your input is invaluable. Your reporting here not only shows us what is missing but what questions we might ask. 
And secondly Harv, thanks for this article which shows me the extent of the prostitution going on with the media and this government in particular.

(Response: Thanks, Gary. That&#039;s why I do this: Lord knows I have lost some good friends in the media (and made new ones as well!) as a result of my honest beliefs opinions expressed here .. and note there are no ads on this site ..so I benefit in no way, other than being happy to generate discussion that I feel is important to our democracy and media integrity. As to your specific comments, I still do not believe there is a &quot;conspiracy&quot; ... just independent favoritism now being openly promoted and expressed by the corporately run and owned media favoring the conservative or right-wing point of view ... and apparently there are no longer the strong newsroom managers who somehow used to successfully be able to fight this off and protect the BC media&#039;s integrity..   ho)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harv</p>
<p>I&#8217;d  like to thank you for helping myself and I&#8217;m sure others in your in depth writings about the goings on in the Media. It is really refreshing to know that there is someone out there with knowledge of the workings of a reporter. For a couple of years now some of us had been labeled by members of the press as conspiracy theorists. Part of that label came from writings about the Legislature Raids in 2003. ie; Government is hiding things or covering up. But I had noticed that when we started taking the press to task for lack of reporting, that is when the conspiracy theorist thing emerged.<br />
Most of us are not professional reporters, but average Joe Citizens who see that something is drastically wrong with this government and the press. And your input is invaluable. Your reporting here not only shows us what is missing but what questions we might ask.<br />
And secondly Harv, thanks for this article which shows me the extent of the prostitution going on with the media and this government in particular.</p>
<p>(Response: Thanks, Gary. That&#8217;s why I do this: Lord knows I have lost some good friends in the media (and made new ones as well!) as a result of my honest beliefs opinions expressed here .. and note there are no ads on this site ..so I benefit in no way, other than being happy to generate discussion that I feel is important to our democracy and media integrity. As to your specific comments, I still do not believe there is a &#8220;conspiracy&#8221; &#8230; just independent favoritism now being openly promoted and expressed by the corporately run and owned media favoring the conservative or right-wing point of view &#8230; and apparently there are no longer the strong newsroom managers who somehow used to successfully be able to fight this off and protect the BC media&#8217;s integrity..   ho)</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree but Mr. Good lost all credibility when he gave the first soft shoe interview with Gordon Campbell after the Election in 2001 and basically agreed with everything said about how campbell had to clean up the NDP&#039;s mess. and destroy lives rip up contracts and break promises even though he knew the NDP had a surplus. Never disagree with a guest and definitely defend him from the pinko callers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree but Mr. Good lost all credibility when he gave the first soft shoe interview with Gordon Campbell after the Election in 2001 and basically agreed with everything said about how campbell had to clean up the NDP&#8217;s mess. and destroy lives rip up contracts and break promises even though he knew the NDP had a surplus. Never disagree with a guest and definitely defend him from the pinko callers.</p>
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