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Could Global’s Mike McCardell Jump to CTV?

July 9th, 2012 · 40 Comments

He’s hasn’t yet been pushed out the door, but it looks like veteran BCTV/Global reporter/storyteller/icon Mike McCardell has at least symbolically been shown where it is.

McCardell is currently on vacation, but I have heard that the day before he left, McCardell was called in and advised by management that, when he returns, the station may cut him back to only two days a week … and just on weekends to boot.

That’s quite a drop for a 32-year veteran who many felt, for decades, has personally held up the back end ratings of the Newshour,  five days a week, Mon. to Fri.

In fact, McCardell’s stories used to run earlier in the show … years ago. Management had noticed, though, that Newshour ratings were falling off half-way through the show … after weather … but when they started running McCardell’s “people” pieces close to the end of the hour,  after sports, viewers came back just to see them or stayed through the feature and fluff segments and sports.

So McCardell’s 6:55 p.m. “spot” was born … a significant enough hallmark that he refers to it on  Global’s Vancouver website as being his “segment”: 6:55 p.m.

Well looks like they’ll be changing that designation.

In recent weeks, viewers have seen McCardell dropped back to before sports … at first, some thought,  as part of a temporary promotional or advertising change. Maybe, though, they were testing to see if  his position holding up the rear was not so critical anymore. We can only surmise whether ratings were affected by that reversal … but sure looks like not much, if at all.

Time to retire?  Or be retired?

Actually, McCardell reached the “normal”  staff retirement age at Global, 65 at the time,  about three years ago.

But as I blogged then, he didn’t want to go and the station didn’t want him to … so on air, not much changed:  he officially retired from his staff employee position but kept on working, under contract, likely paid on a “per piece” basis.

Now though,  perhaps things are different …  from management’s perspective.

In the age of Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Blogs and all kinds of other high-speed, high-tech communications, McCardell’s video vignettes are, I suspect, now considered dated and tired.  Without ANY scientific survey whatsoever (isn’t blogging wonderful!) I can pontificate that his most loyal followers and fans are aging,  just like he (and I).

The long-term future of television news requires a new generation of active, youthful BUT EXPERIENCED reporters, writers and storytellers and, yes, entertainers.

In BC,  tv stations are facing lack-of-growth ratings troubles:   I say due to poor hiring selections by management  ….  far too many bland, inexperienced, apparently BC history-uneducated and shallow political-knowedged youngsters.  They may offer a pliable willingness to do whatever they’re told and work for cheap wages  … their enthusiasm for being on tv triumphing over journalistic substance … but most seem to lack substantive visual storytelling abilities, investigative skills, strong writing powers or display any on-air personality that attracts new viewers or keeps old ones.

Yes, the best are aging, flickering or burning out: leaving behind a few talented and still brightly shining co-workers  …. and growing legions of lesser luminaries,  of lower wattage.

McCardell’s light may not be shining as bright as it once was … but apparently it’s still bright enough to keep many fans and sell lots of books.

So is it time to turn him off or cut him back to just Sat/Sun?

Or maybe light up the 6:55 p.m ”segment” of CTV News at Six?

Harv Oberfeld

 

Tags: British Columbia · Media

40 responses so far ↓

  • 1 Larry Bennett // Jul 9, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    I have always had an aversion to his show, and thought it rather idiotic and silly, though, apparently some folks seemed to like him, you know, little old ladies and such. I once suggested that he was a draft dodger hippie type, and he threatened to send some of his old army buddies over and teach me the what’s-for! He walked into the VANOC building when I worked there and seemed not to like it, looked around smuggly, and then left – guess no one recognized him, or, would acknowledge him, anyway. Maybe someday, we can all catch up on his books from the remainders bins around town.

  • 2 frosty // Jul 9, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    Of course it could be because we’re the same era but…I think Mike’s light is not fading at all! His TV pieces are, to me…the hi-light of the news hour and Fridays, when they choose to go with you-tube videos instead aren’t anywhere close to Mike.

    When I asked him to do radio pieces for me, he translated his talents to that medium perfectly. If what you say is true….I think he’d be perfect back with Tony and Gloria on CBC…plus they could use something like Mike as well. JUMP old boy…you have lots left in the tank.

    (Response: I supsect management are concerned that most of those who like his genre are greying. And he’s no spring chicken either … a problem becoming more apparent on Global, competing in a cruel, visual-oriented action-oriented medium … where , like in sports, experience is valuable … but only to a point. h.o)

  • 3 SB // Jul 9, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    The issue is as you and many of now see is that Global and all MSM news are doing a terrible job people know they have covered up Liberal mistakes in BC know they are not looking to expand or explore stories that affect taxpayers and for that they are losing them as customers and will continue to do so until they die off .
    I am old enough to remember watching yourself , Webster among other who asked the questions made the truth known and kept politicians in check maybe not honest but they knew media would not be kind to miscues and acted accordingly now its media in bed with politics especially right wing sides and its not being ignored by the public as much as they like to believe all of us are sheep .

  • 4 Matt // Jul 9, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    It will be to bad to have Mike down to just two days a week I enjoy his stories. Although at the same time it might be time for Global to try something new.

    (Response: Kind of sums it up, doesn’t it. Even people who enjoy McCardell’s stories can understand why the station might want to try something different …but couldn’t they do both, by cutting some of the fluff they run BEFORE sports? h.o)

  • 5 Howard // Jul 9, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    He’s had a pretty good run, so it’s probably time for him to back away, and time for the Global to get a few more of their burnt out people into retirement as well. I remember them asking a couple of teenaged girls (on air) for their impression of the McCardell stories a few years back. Their assessment? “corny, lame, and boring.”

  • 6 Warren // Jul 9, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    Hey here’s an idea: why don’t they run news in the News Hour? Maybe people would go for that. One person introduces an item, then they show the item produced by a journalist who is allowed to take the time to actually produce real journalism. Maybe people would watch that. Then maybe that would catch on, and people would be smarter and better informed.

    Then they could spin off the other parts of the show to run at a different time. If people wanted to watch bus ad celebrities joke around with each other, they could have a show called “Wasting Your Time With Bad Jokes”. And another show could be called “Traffic Jams”. And yet another could be called “Sports Stuff That Happened On the Internet Already”. Maybe even a show about crazy BC politics called “Here’s What You Should Think, By A Guy Who’s Been Doing This For Way Too Long”.

    Hey, did I just write McCardell’s last bit?

    (Response: Maybe the next one? h.o)

  • 7 Henri // Jul 9, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    There’s a difference between the two, thats “news” to me.
    Their like two double ended pointed turds in the toilet bowel can’t tell one from the other.
    Mike do your self a favor retire, walk , before they shove you out. Remember Robert Malcolm

    http://www.bcradiohistory.com/Biographies/RobertMalcolm.htm

    Rob passed August 4, 2010

    Harv in your 3rd paragraph you mentioned the News hour, years ago maybe, Nowadays I refer to them as the no news hour, Its a hell of a good news days now if you get 10 Min’s of news, the rest is fluff and silly filler, of course if you flip over to CTV their news is pretty well toast by then also, CBC is a little better, some times… Don’t get me started on their morning show, Its bad, even worse then the evening news “show”

  • 8 Bill P // Jul 10, 2012 at 1:08 am

    I was talking to a mutual friend ( a rugby playing camera guy, winky icon) about his retirement from your ranks Harvey. He wasn’t the least impressed with the procedure and noted how much change had come to the industry and how little was for the better of anything but the bottom line. I often wonder what the heck they are thinking by tossing established and credible people under the bus.

    (Response: Give him my best! :) I see nothing wrong with the station renewing itself as people retire …IF the replacements are experienced, quality reporters, diggers, writers and yes, personalities. But the current management at many stations seem to have forgotten …or just don’t know … what makes for real growth and success … just going more for young and cheap. There are some good people still there, but they know who they are and who the others are! h.o)

  • 9 Larry Bennett // Jul 10, 2012 at 2:10 am

    I was totally unaware that Robert Malcolm had passed away – may he wake to glory – I quite liked the guy, no showboat, just delivered the news factually and with aplomb. As for Doriana Tremelo, how could you miss with a name like a poem by Dante? Oddly I can’t even recall what she looked like – of course that may be a virtue to a newsperson.

  • 10 diverdarren // Jul 10, 2012 at 2:56 am

    Mike McCardlle’s spots “dated and tired”, but so are BCTV’s watchers.

    Mike is like a comfortable jacket, and you never toss out a good jacket. BCTV should think about who their viewers are before they replace McCartlle with some piece geared to youth, like Sack Spencer talking about the latest tech gadget.

  • 11 13 // Jul 10, 2012 at 3:32 am

    Mike is to the News Hour as Andy Rooney was to 6o minutes. If the powers at BCTV dont see this then they are not to bright

  • 12 Gary // Jul 10, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    It’s a sad day when a media personality the likes of Mr. McCardell are resigned to a footnote in a boardroom trying to figure out why their revenues and relevance are falling. When what little news they actually provide is a tired old sound bite by those hard hitters like Keith Baldry and Vaughn Palmer ( forgive my facetiousness ) what Mike offers at the end of a dismal news hour serves to soothe an otherwise unpleasant experience. It’s neither news nor necessary to have political shills selling us further misinformation. Mike McCardell has on many occasions brought a much needed smile to my face. They may decommission the man, the memory will live on in the memories of those of us who no longer matter.

  • 13 kootcoot // Jul 10, 2012 at 2:16 pm

    Harv, this is a great post that really benefits from your “inside baseball” view of the industry from which you have retired – a position in which it would appear Mike may soon find himself – whether he likes it or not.

    Unlike the blogger whose threads Larry (the Bennett who has never been Premier or had a dam or bridge named for him) seems to inhabit incessantly, Mike could be counted on to end the newscast with a touching human tale, without sinking into the mudhole of the maudlin.

    Although I knew that Mike was a immigrant – like myself, I never got the impression he was the “hippie type” or nor did I care if he was a draft dodger or medal of honor recipient. On the other hand Mr. Bennett seems to be a refugee from another time sent here to represent the pope, perhaps some yet undetermined earlier pontiff – though the current former Young Brownshirter seems to not offend our man Larry.

    13 hit the spot when he compares Mike to Andy Rooney. Andy Roony and his quirky, cantankerous observations of his daily life. His closing bit served as a decompression chamber after almost 60 Minutes of often disturbing segments based on actual research. On the other hand over at Glow Ball, after 40 – 45 minutes of fact free spin and advertising posing as ‘news’ it was left up to Squier and Mike to remind us facts do exist and do matter. Mike’s pieces often even addressed real social issues, be it land use policy, race relations or poverty, without being maudlin or in your face political. Of course Sports while allowing ‘opinion’ about bad ref calls, and proposed and already executed trades – is of necessity fully fact based supported by final scores, box scores and such.

    Matt sez, “Although at the same time it might be time for Global to try something new.” and I agree. I would suggest something like investigative journalism, bolstered by a liberal (in the generic sense) use of facts in the 3/4 hour before Squier and Mike.

    Instead of blaming all their problems on demographics, the intertooobz or sunspots, Glow Ball might think of simply putting out a quality core product, i.e. actual NEWS. Promoting the crap they’ve been substituting for news is more appropriately the job of the PAB (or whatever new name Clueless Christy uses), realtors, the auto dealer’s themselves and the PR firms representing Big Energy, Big Pharma, climate deniers and environment enhancers and beautifiers like Enbridge and British Petroleum. Repeating BC LIEberal talking points, launching attacks on the NDP and reading press releases for the Corporate Agenda over the air is hardly NEWS!

    (Response: As a reader of this blog, you know I just wish when people disagreed with something someone else writes, whatever it is, they would stick to the points raised rather than attack the individual personally. All the latter tells me is the attacker doesn’t have much in the way of ammunition to refute the points raised by the other side. The best discussions are those where BOTH sides are offered and considered. h.o)

  • 14 r // Jul 10, 2012 at 3:05 pm

    Maybe Mike M could do a piece in BC debt.?

    http://taxpayer.com/british-columbia/bc-taxpayers-need-sweat-about-government-debt

  • 15 kootcoot // Jul 10, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    Harv, when a person uses their obvious religious superstitions in place of facts or reasoning, that should be pointed out to both them and those who might accept their arguments as “gospel,” and if that is too “attacking” for here, I have many other places to be and things to do.

    Acrtually, I wouldn’t miss fighting with your apparently illiterate Captcha dude who invariably tells me I’ve entered the wrong code, making me go back and try again, wondering if the spaces count etc. Lately I’ve just completely said to hell with it and moved on, being not entirely retired like yourself. I really was surprised the comment above even showed up because Captcha dude was still telling me I either couldn’t read or type, or both……….and I had given up and moved on.

  • 16 e.a.f. // Jul 10, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    His stories were different from the regular news & told a story about something human. He like us is getting older. However, Global might want to look at who really are their viewers. yes it is most likely us old grey hairs.

    We grew up watching news. Younger generations, not so much. They catch what they want on their iphones, etc. & aren’t waiting for anything more.

    Yes, Global has been trying for a younger audience by having younger “reporters”. Unfortunately it will leave them with a very thin pool. Keep the guy.

    Randen & her sports side kick are the best on their news, along with Jas Johal. Their new talking head is nice looking but as to does he really have the chops to do a story, who knows.

  • 17 GeeBee // Jul 11, 2012 at 12:15 am

    It happened to me, it happens to lots of people and it’ll no doubt happen to Mike. Its going to take another decade or so for people to realize how big a mistake it is to get rid of senior staff.

    I wasnt missed at all, for a couple of months. Then, it takes the fresh-faced twenty somethings three times as long to do my work, they have no contacts, no history, no life experience – but they are 15% cheaper and get two weeks less vacation….. well done management – great for the bottom line….

  • 18 morry // Jul 11, 2012 at 12:18 am

    I have always looked forward to his stories. Real People doing real things i real neighbourhoods.

    If Global cuts Mike they are stupider than they make out they are.

    Mike is the antidote to the social-fluff of social-media pablum.

  • 19 Larry Bennett // Jul 11, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Ah yes, kootcoot; his Rorschach test must be absolutely fearsome! I suggest that I am not a fan of a local colour commentator, and the above decides it is okay to call the spiritual leader of over a billion adherents, a Nazi! Now the very last thing I want to do, is to harm kootcoot (but it is till on my list) and anyway, he being a dullwitted sort of fellow, he is not immune to this kind of flattery, so I will end it here.

  • 20 keith // Jul 11, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    The reason the Newshour loses their audience halfway through the show, is many switch to the CBC to watch Coronation Street.

    (Response: Never used to be that way. It never ceases to maze me how current management took over a winning formula … experienced reporters (many from long newspaper backgrounds) telling interesting and provocative stories that were even allowed to run five or six minutes, if warranted …and proved a gold mine of growing audiences and huge profits … and changed things drastically: young inexperienced reporters, lousy writers, no understanding that the PRIORITY should be pictures ..not them doing standups and focused on shallow ambulance chasing and promotional crap ..and now wondering why there is no growth, even as the population continues to grow. They blame the multi-channel universerve and social media, but as many true news shows prove, the people will watch …if you give them INTERESTING stuff worth watching…not maybe ethnically correct kids, but who have no charisma, can’t write and know almost nothing about the background of anything beyond car accidents, fires, shootings, and other current events presented on a platter, so they can use “file footage” a thousand times. And they wonder why viewers turn off! h.o)

  • 21 Ess // Jul 11, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    The TV news business is in the same boat as the newspaper business. Who on earth waits till 6:00 pm to get their news. I have it streaming to me all day.
    I can’t think of any reason I’d watch commercial TV news anymore.
    I have bloggers I read daily who manage to break much more news than I’ve ever seen on TV or radio for that matter plus I have various news sources tweeting breaking news all day.
    I don’t even watch the entertainment type shows any more when I can read Perez and his ilk.

    (Response: I believe many people still see the 6 p.m. News as part of thei daily habit, after getting home from work. But you are correct that so much is available during the day, on the Internet and the radio etc.: the SOLUTION is for tv news to offer something NEW and DIFFERENT, but increasingly they’re going the opposite way … just following morning newspaper stories, daytime press conferences, or “happenings” like fires and car accidents etc. And don’t forget weather stories …where you can tune in on a hot day and find out …it’s hot! We see the results of that …as reflected in their ratings …but they won’t learn until there is new management with new imagination …. who hire serious journalists. h.o)

  • 22 Alienguy // Jul 11, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    I don’t think Mike is the problem, the news is or should I say lack of it. I watch the first segment and 99% of the time I’m gone. Most of the stories I have already read off the net so I don’t need to see it again. Global has some of the worst reporters that clearly lack journalistic skills and experience. News needs to reinvent itself and maybe Mike does too. Kind of like death by a thousand clicks.

    (Response: But where do you go when you click? To CBC or CTV? Or somewhere else? If it’s none of the above, clearly management should be paying attention and changing to keep people like you and grow new viewers too. CTV was actually coming up with some pretty good investigative stuff for a while, but few and far between …and little of the regular story writing impresses me ..and quite apparently few others. And there’s not an anchor on any of them I look forward to tuning in. h.o)

  • 23 Gini // Jul 11, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    I haven’t watched the Global Vancouver news hour much lately, preferring instead to watch my local news on CHBC (Global Okanagan). Sometimes I switch to Global Vancouver at 6;30, or CTV, since Coronation Street is a total snore-fest. (Why CBC insists on showing that old thing is beyond me).

    Mike McCardell used to be one of my favourite TV personalities, though, and I’m sure that he deserves a much-earned rest from the daily grind. It would be nice to see him do a few segments on the morning show, because it really is becoming quite pitiful of late and could use a boost.

    Or he could join Randene and Squire at night. They’re the best of the Global news bunch, IMHO. Mike would fit right in with their light hearted format.

    (Response: Late news? At his age? He’d probably do like I would if I were still working at that time of day…nod off, right on the air! h.o)

  • 24 Keith E. // Jul 11, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    Hi Harvey,

    to your title;

    “Could Global’s Mike McCardell Jump to CTV?”

    If he were to do real investigative journalism then CTV would most likely get an increase in ratings with items of substance and name recognition, also probably pull a few viewers from Global. If it would be to turn out more of the same or similar, I can’t see much point. His human interest stories (which I personally find a bit hokey and a waste of his talent) were O.K. at one time but are now past their sell buy date. Mike should be somewhere but doing more substantive reporting.

    Chief political reporter for Global.?

    (Response: That won’t happen. I have long had the impression Mike has neither the interest nor the energy to do regular reporting….esp political reporting which should require a lot of running around, working the phones and chasing politicians all over the place to get a quote. Mike? Not in this remaining lifetime. h.o)

  • 25 kootcoot // Jul 12, 2012 at 2:05 am

    L.B., it is a matter of public record that in his younger days your current pontiff was a member of the brownshirt equivalent of the Boy Scouts (another recently debased organization), sort of like the infinitely moveable child molesters previously sheltered by the same pontiff in his previous position as Papal Sgt at Arms or some such position. Being not that familiar with the Catholic hierarchy (thank god or thank goodness) you are likely more familiar with his resume than I.

    I will admit that the current Pope may have had no choice other than to join Hitler’s boy scouts being where he was at the time. However his covering up for child molesting priests, which you must admit are not a rare species in the clergy that demands chastity of its staff, I do find somewhat more disturbing.

    My favorite Pope was the one that mysteriously died only months into his reign, and rumor has it he wanted to clean up the Vatican, so he had to go just like JFK, RFK and many others who were perceived as real threats to the nastiest among us.

    My heart is warmed to see you are so Christian as to still have causing me harm on your agenda……..yea but how many have suffered and been killed in the name of one God or another.

    Speaking of spiritual leaders with many adherents, how about dat Ayotollah in Iran? I bet you respect him lots too, or maybe not!

    BTW, aren’t they missing you over at you know where? Your old choirmaster over there still slags me and/or Mary at every opportunity, even though I haven’t been there for months and Mary is unfortunately deceased.

    (Response: Wow! All this from McCardell possibly being moved to weekends! Only in the blogosphere! :) h.o)

  • 26 kootcoot // Jul 12, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    You are a very good corner of the blogosphere too Harv. We may not agree on every issue, but I certainly respect your perspective as a real, tho retired, journalist and your hospitality to sometimes rather heated debate is much appreciated.

    Don’t go on vacation so much, we miss you when you’re gone – or better yet, be like Jody and Paul (Paterson and Willcocks) and write from and about where you go………thanks.

    (Response: Thanks for your kind words. I am really happy to see all the discussions that take place on here .. hopefully one of the most open forums in the BC blogosphere. And those who participate should be pleased to know my “sources” tell me it IS very well watched and read at all political levels and at one time or another I have pleased and also drawn frowns from ALL of them on all sides of the political spectrum (there goes ANY chance of an Order of BC for me! LOL)! As for travel, it is one of my retirement pleasures and I almost hate to tell you I have just made my first-segment plans to head back to Florida end of October till Xmas. But the good news is I will be right there during the US campaign, including election night, and although I am not permitted to work while living in the US, blogging is a hobby, with no revenue … so I plan to write Keeping it Real from there, in between my visits with local and snowbird relatives and my regular visits to Super Target and Super Walmart! h.o)

  • 27 kootcoot // Jul 12, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Wow Harv, I can’t wait to read your take on the thousand ring circus that is the US contest for Preznit. A really good and busy blog to look at for US issues is Firedoglake.com.

    The gals that run it almost invented live blogging of a trial with the Scooter Libby trial that was an outgrowth of the Valerie Plame affair.

    They have numerous contributors many of whom come from diverse fields like law, business and one of the founders, Jane was a successful Hollywood Producer(ess). Another of the founder gals was a West Virginia prosecutor and so it goes.

    They have a nifty weekly preview of the Sunday Talking Head Shows, just so you can find out how many and which will yet again feature John McShame who foisted Sarah Palin upon the world, instead of leaving her in the bush of Alaska shooting bears and hippies.

  • 28 Larry Bennett // Jul 12, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    Agreed Harvey, I don’t see the connection between Mike McCardell and the Papacy, and I’ve checked back and cannot find my mention of anything whatsoever about Catholicity. Of course it is good to know that Catholics that may come to this site, realize that there is some anti-Catholic rhetoric to be found here; wonder if we would tolerate this kind of hate, were it directed at Jews, Muslims, or, oh I don’t know …. Mormons or JW’s, or God forfend, homosexuals or humanists? For Catholics (and anyone else interested in the scandals associated with what is wrongly called “pedophelia) they might want to read Michael R. Rose’s “Goodbye, Good Men” which might put a little more perspective in the matter that has afflicted the Church in these latter years, and for which Benedict XVI has worked diligently at correcting. Most won’t bother because they don’t want to know the truth and are happy with their petty biases.

  • 29 Larry Bennett // Jul 12, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    Post Script: To the comment about how many have died in the name of religion, it would be very wise of you to remember that those who are willing to die for their faith are often the ones ready to kill for it. Also, it would be good to remember that far, far more people around the world in the last couple of centuries have died at the hands of atheistic regimes. If you can stay still or be quiet long enough to crack a history book, you would find this to be true. Instead you go careening down the InterNet, stumbling into quite sane sites and disturbing the relative peace and equanimity found in most, or tripping up on such complexities as catchas, and being turned away from some of the most liberal blog sites in the universe – it tells us something!

  • 30 kootcoot // Jul 13, 2012 at 11:52 am

    L.B. – You didn’t have to restate your Catholic leaning views and value system as you have made perfectly clear your discomfort or disgust at things not condoned by the most recent edicts from Rome, on every website that you grace with your wisdom. You’ve done a thorough job of establishing your basic position – which as far as I can tell would be quite acceptable to your confessor or the Pope!

    As far as Atheistic regimes being bigger and better at killing off folks, in its own way atheism IS a religion, because like most religions it too requires accepting on faith something that cannot be proven – I can no more claim, based on any evidence that there is no God, than I can state unequivocally that there is, and he or she has a white beard.

    Most societies have some fables or spiritual notions to hang their systems on, personally I feel this stems from the time when we mere humans couldn’t understand why anything happened, gravity hadn’t been invented and the stars and Sun went around the flat earth.

    Stalinism, the most recent “atheistic” killing machine I can think of, was dedicated to the hard core secular view, perhaps because they felt the opium of the masses was as big a threat to the socialist utopia as nasty old free bootin’ capitalism. Obviously they weren’t correct about everything and their system failed, and did so sooner than many people expected – heck even Soviet Scholar Condi Rice didn’t see that coming and didn’t even see it after it happened – and she may be Mitten’s answer to Sarah “I can see Russia from my porch” Palin.

    Hitler professed to run a Christian Reich, no Jews, Homos or Roma need apply and I imagine Pinochet was a faithful practicing Catholic. It doesn’t seem like any religion or form of government or economic system has got it quite right yet…….but the idea is to keep trying and learn from our mistakes rather than trusting in some big guy in the sky to sort it all out in some afterlife be it the Christian idea of heaven or them terra guys with their oodles of virgins just a waiting for the next martyr to arrive.

    And before I go Larry, could you remind me just what all them Crusades were all about, if not whether “our” God or Allah was tougher!

    BTW, I fully support your right to practice Catholicism and my right to become one, or not. However using the dicta of any religion to justify social/economic policies for everyone is just wrong, wrong like the southern US judge who thought the courthouse was an appropriate place to display the instructions brought down by Moses or use them instead of the legal code – 3/4 or so of the commandments do not conform to civil or criminal law and some would fail to withstand a Charter or US Constitutional challenge – whether or not you think that it should be the law of the land. How about Sharia Law, the Old Testament on steroids and then some………….

  • 31 Larry Bennett // Jul 13, 2012 at 1:48 pm

    Looks like the koot has figured out the capcha box, but then it was only blather anyway, playing the luddite. Why don’t you go spew your hatred over at Rebel with a Clause, he being more along your way of thinking, – oh yea, forgot, he doesn’t want your twaddle either. Weren’t you aware that Alex prayed fervently to the B.V. M. for the health of his sick daughter, and had those prayers answered? I’d be very careful criticizing him for doing so, buddy!

  • 32 kootcoot // Jul 13, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    “I’d be very careful criticizing him for doing so, buddy!”

    I’m glad YOU would be careful, (I’m nor your buddy), myself, I didn’t really say anything about anyone praying to or cursing at anything other than that I feel one’s spiritual beliefs and practices are their business as long as they don’t try to include me, or force me to conform to their dicta. I can’t decide if you believe is something or just like to make up stuff.

    You are the reigning master of the non-sequitur! Frankly you seemed to fit in much better with the crowd that hangs at the Greco-Canadian’s joint. How come you’re not over there these days, are you boycotting or banned?

    I’m done with you now Larry, it isn’t fun anymore trying to have discourse with a random statement generating bot! My mommy warned me about feeding the (edited..h.o).

    (Response: Stop with the name calling: it discredits this blog …and most of of all, your own intellectual status with readers. h.o)

  • 33 kootcoot // Jul 14, 2012 at 2:11 am

    I don’t get you tonight Harv, after I went out of my way to express my appreciation of your thread moderation style. I don’t see where I called anybody any names, calling a self professed Catholic a Catholic is hardly name calling – and I certainly didn’t suggest anyone couldn’t follow any religion they wanted, as long as they didn’t expect their religious precepts to determine public policy for everyone ala Sharia law

    Trolls may be offensive, but the word certainly isn’t, look it up – the modern internet usage that is. I’m disappointed in you here Harv, you tolerate him calling me dull, too dumb to have ever cracked a history book, making veiled threats about physical harm to myself and making up stuff that he claims I said (like where did I criticize anyone for praying for their daughter, especially to B.V.M.. cuz I have no idea what BVM even is) then edit a perfectly good, non-offensive FIVE letter word – I guess I was premature earlier……oh well, life is full of disappointments, but I try to not dwell on them (I hope dwell is okay, it is suggestive of cellars, which can be low class digs (triple entendre intended)

    I really don’t care if you publish this or not, as it is basically a message/question to yourself. b
    But I suggest you re-read the exchanges between me and the actual serial name caller, instead of accusing he who has been getting called names out for…..what? I’ll even help you out here with some examples of what I, at least would classify as your run of the mill, issue avoiding name calling.

    “Ah yes, kootcoot; his Rorschach test must be absolutely fearsome!”

    “Now the very last thing I want to do, is to harm kootcoot (but it is till on my list) and anyway, he being a dullwitted sort of fellow,”

    “wonder if we would tolerate this kind of hate, were it directed at Jews, Muslims, or, oh I don’t know …. Mormons or JW’s, or God forfend, homosexuals or humanists? ”

    I don’t think stating that the Pope shouldn’t be the arbiter of public policy here in Canada or the church’s proscribed behaviors the basis for a legal code is either anti-Catholic, or hate speech. The law should apply to Catholics, Jews, Mormons, Baptists, Buddhists, Sikhs and followers of Islam. Religious dicta apply only to the adherents, just cause Mormons think it is bad to imbibe caffeine or alcohol, would it be proper for Mittens to ban both substances should he become Preznit. I’m old enough to remember the sheer terror of many Americans, especially the Masons in my own family, that electing JFK would put the Pope in ,

    I’ll be perfectly happy to just lurk here from time to time and not participate, because a moderation policy that makes no sense (or that I can’t understand because of my lack of intelligence, perhaps) does drive me cuckoo. The less I comment here, there or anywhere, the more time I have to devote to my own writing………..which takes many forms, and not just on the internet as kootcoot or otherwise.

  • 34 Larry Bennett // Jul 14, 2012 at 7:43 am

    You’ll be happy to know then that you are not in my prayers, and that candles will not be lit in your name, not even to the patron of lost causes. The other blogger you spoke of, is getting some quiet time, as I am myself, and when I left I did not quite shake the dust from my feet, and I doubt that I would be banned from any site (unless I really wanted to!). Now run along, the adults are talking now.

  • 35 Zinc // Jul 15, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    Was wondering if he was still on the air…
    Didn’t they put him on during the closing credits so we could freshen our coffees anyway?

    Getting nudged out the door at 68 isn’t exactly the end of the world. Time to enjoy the grand kids…

    (Response: I walked away …retired …at 62. Wonderful decision: had a great time there, esp through BCTV’s Golden Era and was lucky to be able to get away when I did. But I’m not sure Mike wants to give up working to spend time with grandkids …or anyone. We’ll know this Fall. h.o)

  • 36 AnotherJulie // Jul 15, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    I laughed out loud when I read the above comment from Keith:

    “The reason the Newshour loses their audience halfway through the show, is many switch to the CBC to watch Coronation Street.”

    because that’s exactly what we do in my household.

  • 37 John // Jul 15, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    The “This is a shoe” routine actually made me laugh out loud it was so bad. Epic.

    A prime example of what’s been wrong with local television news for years.

    And it’s only getting worse.

  • 38 Kam Lee // Jul 16, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    Well, as I score it… kootcoot: 5, Larry Bennett: 0
    lol. The best man won :)

  • 39 Larry Bennett // Jul 17, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    Kam – When the Great Scorer comes to mark against your name …… So, what you are saying here, is that, this being a free country, anyone may accuse, say Roman Catholics, of belonging to a fascist organization, but members of same faith may not express their social views on, oh say adultery, by stating that it is condemned in the Decalogue, which we believe was given to Moses on Mt. Sinai? It should be noted too, that it also forms the ethical code of Jews and, by extension, many Muslim beliefs. We are not, unlike kootcoot, allowed to express our views on life based on our up-bringing? Maybe you should go back and give a little thought to your definition of freedom of speech?

  • 40 kootcoot // Jul 18, 2012 at 10:49 am

    I know I was gonna leave you alone and not waste my time but I must clarify your lack of understanding regarding:

    “We are not, unlike kootcoot, allowed to express our views on life based on our up-bringing? “

    Do I have to limit the expression of my views to those based on my up-bringing? If so I’ve been really effing up as I was brought up hard core Right Wing Republican, Ayn Rand worshipping in a family and community where Barry Goldwater was God and membership in the John Birch society was required – I even put in a shift trying to become Catholic, though that was considered a cult by the main wing of my family and it didn’t take because the service was still given in Latin and I didn’t take Latin until high school, long after the experiment with Catholicism. (My father’s second wife was Catholic – though not a perfect one I guess, being as she was a participant in at least two divorces and she and my dad were both on second marriages, not exactly the kind of stuff that earns wine and crackers at communion if I understand the rules, though I guess talking to the guy through the screen earns your crackers, maybe. Must one confess weekly about something like a questionable second marriage or does one time clear the books?

    Somehow I learned about some other ways to view the world as I went through secondary school and university and had access to vast libraries and other sources of information than the local John Birch Society Office.