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CTV and Global in Furious Fall Fight for Fans

September 12th, 2016 · 30 Comments

Out with the old … in with the new … and when I comes to local TV news in Vancouver, the Fall fight is now on for those who still view.

Ratings for TV News programming in Canada (unlike the US) are often TOP SECRET … for the eyes of management, sales staff … and potential advertisers.

However, some recent figures I have obtained show CTV has made solid inroads on Global’s Morning Show and 5 p.m. Early News ratings.

Global used to lead comfortably in all the news time slots, but statistics from one of my sources reveal for the full month of July, in the key 25 to 54 age category,  CTV’s Morning Live captured a 0.8 ratings, compared to 0.9 for Global’s Morning News … a spread of only a miniscule 0.1 . And  on some days, CTV’s Morning program actually beat Global’s.

If you take into account how tv viewers … especially adult regular news watchers … are often people of habit, the growth of CTV over the full month …  and now within striking distance of the lead … should be causing great concern at Global Vancouver.

Take the 5 p.m. weekday TV news … a slot Global’s Deb Hope “used to own” (as one TV executive put it).   I’m told Global scored only a 1.3 ratings score through July … barely edging out CTV’s  1.2 score.

If the trend over the past several months continues, CTV could take over the Number One ranking in BOTH the Morning AND 5 p.m. slots!

The times … and viewers’ habits … are a-changing!

If there was any good news in the July news ratings for Global, it was that the Newshour still leads other Vancouver newscasts at 6 p.m. But even there, it was only a silver lining, not gold.

The Newshour pulled in a 3.9 ratings score, while CTV’s News at Six garnered a 2.4 … for second place. In July, 2015 CTV had a 2.1 score … and Global a 3.6.  (CBC’s half-hour News at 6 drew only a 0.4 .)

I personally find the Newshour’s tremendous decline quite shocking.

Hard to imagine my old alma mater used to COMMAND the airwaves at 6 p.m. … with FIVE TO SIX TIMES the number of viewers of our closest competitor, CTV.

Yikes!

I can just imagine …with dread … what would have gone on in the Global newsroom here if such a calamitous drop in ratings had occurred when the owners and top management were ensconced in Vancouver! Heads would have rolled …and I would have tried as much as possible to work from home and only phone in my story ideas and then edit out in a remote/truck location … rather than head out to face the wrath in the lions’ den at the station in Burnaby.

LOL!

But thankfully for my comrades still working there, the fall from grace in current ratings may be softened by the fact that Global’s top news bosses and network brass are now all stationed in Toronto …  where I hear Global’s News is in THIRD place, behind BOTH CTV and CBC  So they may be DELIGHTED with their FIRST place in Vancouver!

LOL!

From a reporter’s point of view, ratings tell the story of  how VIEWERS see news story choices, story-telling, pictures and even on-air presentation, graphics, pacing and anchoring.

But where ratings (and audience size and demographics) REALLY count for the brass are in advertising sales.

And judging by what I’ve seen, CTV ad-pushers and revenue-pullers are very happy these days.

In recent weeks, the Vancouver station continued to gain on Global in the Morning market.  Here’s a release CTV sales sent out last week:

“CTV Morning Live claimed the top spot for morning news ratings in Vancouver last week! The show achieved a weekly average rating of .8 while Global rated a .3 and City scored a .2. Also of note, on two days last week, CTV Morning Live scored a 1.0 and a 1.2 while Global registered two days at  0.1. This marks a tie with our best overnight rating for CML ever while also marking a new historic low for our primary competitor. It is amazing how a show that was once a 0.1 endeavor is now regularly registering in the “ones”.

I have no doubt Global will fight back, and I’ve already noticed what seem to be substantial departure from the kind/scope of stories that made BCTV so popular and successful …. and NOT for the better, in MY opinion.

Much more police blotter content now (ugh!), shorter pieces (instead of in depth reporting) and LOTS of fluff (News is in trouble, when a dead dog in a dumpster LEADS the show, and explosives found in a storage locker and an entire block-long evacuation in a heavily urban area runs afterwards!)

Sometimes Global still unearths a gem of a story … but then again, almost as often now so does CTV.  The former WIDE gap between the two arch competitors is clearly gone.

And the Fall feud for fans … and ratings … should be a furious fight.

I sent a note to Global News Director Jill Krop seeking any alternative ratings figures or perspective the station may have for this blog piece about CTV’s gains …  but received no answer.

Silence may be golden … or as we always believed in the news business … it may also say quite a lot!

Harv Oberfeld

Tags: British Columbia · Media

30 responses so far ↓

  • 1 rainclouds // Sep 12, 2016 at 8:41 am

    Am in the process of stopwatching the 6pm News. (CTV/Global) keeps me from throwing a brick at the tv………….

    Essentially if you remove ads, pointless banter, stories about sick kids/ dogs/ car accidents,. you have about 18 min of “content” of which very little is investigative “journalism”

    More erosion to come I expect.

    (Response: Must admit I don’t watch daily anymore … and when I do, I PVR both CTV and Global …and then speed through the cruddy content, fluff and ads. Often I am done with each in about 15 minutes …and that includes the weather! h.o.)

  • 2 Gary T. // Sep 12, 2016 at 9:51 am

    I have given up on network tv of any kind. If I can’t stream it from my computer, I don’t watch it. Saves me a bundle on cable, and i get to watch what I want, when I want, all commercial free.

  • 3 D. M. Johnston // Sep 12, 2016 at 9:54 am

    Memo to GLOBAL and CTV, start reporting the real news, instead of pablum. Report on the Liberal scandals with the voracity as you did with the NDP.

    One tires of goody-two-shoes reporting that your managers in Winnipeg and Toronto only allow you to air.

    I was told now by both a MSM newspaper reporter and by a MSM TV reporter that they are just not allowed to do negative stories on SkyTrain, why the hell is that?

    Both have told me personally that negative stories about our mini-metro system are edited out back east! So is Bombardier Inc. and SNC running your news departments? Looks like it.

    And that is just the tip of the iceberg.

    The Massey Tunnel replacement bridge is a scandal, skirting environmental laws. All the big names in scandal are involved, McQuerie, SNC, and alike. Where is the real reporting or, as I suspect, presents like knives or a Sundeck replacement rate higher than $million$ in cash being given to friends of the government for needless, gold plated mega projects, which are built mainly to cut ribbons in front of.

    Until the MSM, print and electronic, start reporting news, and do real investigative reporting, I don’t watch. Tell that to your advertisers!

  • 4 Gene The Bean // Sep 12, 2016 at 10:55 am

    Global is dead to me after their sickening ‘fluffing’ for Christy last election…..and I know I am not alone. The final straw in a steady decline of journalistic professionalism. I expect them to ‘assume the position’ again soon for the next provincial election.

    Would be really interesting to see how many 30+ year viewers of Glow-Ball either no longer watch the news or have switched….

    Maybe Global doesn’t care?
    Maybe we are not their demographic?
    Maybe they are after the TWITer-ers or the heavily thumb muscled ‘young professionals’ that cant stay off their phones long enough to complete a sentence?

    Corporatization kills. When Big Pharma CEO’s say that “we are not in the health and wellness business, we are in the ‘shareholder profit’ business” and when broad based news organizations proudly and purposefully ‘stump’ for a particular political ideology – it is over for 99% of us.

    Historians will not be kind to this era – should we even survive to look back at it.

  • 5 EllBee // Sep 12, 2016 at 11:03 am

    Haven’t watched either in quite some time. The only reason was to settle a bet that Steve Darling couldn’t make it through a piece without stumbling over his own tongue. He did and I won the bet. So easy.

  • 6 Murph // Sep 12, 2016 at 11:07 am

    Global made a huge mistake hiring Sonia Deol for the morning news. Many of us found her very difficult to understand due to her English accent. That cost them viewers.

  • 7 13 // Sep 12, 2016 at 11:45 am

    Harvey, I can only imagine the pain you feel watching what BCTV has become. Imagine if the line up were still Parsons Hope and the rest, yourself included. Imagine if the ownership had stayed constant and shaw remained just an over priced cablevision provider.
    I lamented the same over at the Puget Sound site a day or two ago. I commented that the NW of the mid nineties would have owned the ratings in radio because today there is no competition.
    Another commentor put me in my place when he /she said “if your still complaining about CKNWs modern line up (for the 100th book in a row)or complaining that radio is horrible today…Your obviously VERY close minded& just flat out bitter”
    Well Harvey I think thats a load of crap. NW and BCTV were good then and would be better today but they are being run by an organization that is far more concerned about squeezing nickles till they bleed that providing quality product.

    (Response: Whenever I do these pieces on ratings, and lament the changes, old friends still in the business remind me things NOW are quite different: many more channels; fractured viewing audiences; social media; changing demographics etc. and lower ratings are not because of lower journalism/story standards. I actually understand all of that and recognize the audience IS quite different… want shorter, snappier stories and more police blotter type coverage. However I STILL believe they could still get much larger audiences by doing more serious stories, aimed at sophisticated, educated, issue-orientated viewers who are turned off by what they see today. h.o.)

  • 8 harry lawson // Sep 12, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    Harvey,

    are you really surprised ?

    the race to mediocrity over the years speaks volumes.

    global reminds me of a very successful restaurant that was the go to eatery for quality cuisine. a little expensive to produce hence a smaller profit per serving. the restaurant gave the owner and staff much pride and a great income,

    the restaurant eventually changed hands and went in to a corporate setting. the bean counters came in and stared making subtle changes.

    at first not so noticeable then the bean counters waned more income so they cheapened the recipes , brought in lower staffing cost . and worst of all used a central corporate kitchen.

    the business was essentially changed forever.

    the restaurant is still around serving and competing with other mediocre corporate eateries .

    the younger clients only hear about the old restaurateurs menu and business ethics.

    the older folks smile when thinking about it.

    moral of the story give the people what they want
    the recipes are still out there ,

    (Response: I agree with your analogy 100%. Perhaps, though, they’re not interested anymore in their old customers … but want a younger more hip crowd? Even if THEY have much less disposable dollars to spend on their advertisers. h.o)

  • 9 mike // Sep 12, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    I am now 32yrsld. I have been watching global, formally BCTV since I was in elementary school. I think it started to go downhill when Global took over. I remember the days when the lead story was around five or even seven minutes long. There was actually in depth reporting and coverage of a story.

    Within the past couple of years, I have found the newshour to be barely watchable. Basically the first ten minutes are the meat of the show, and on some nights it might only be five minutes. After the meat comes all of the filler. Idiotic stories about a dead dog. Good grief how many dog stories do we need Jill? Inane fluff after inane fluff. I only watch to provide me with some background noise while I eat dinner.

    It is such a shame to see what has happened to a once mighty newscast.

    (Response: I’m told my observation about shorter stories on the Newshour is correct …to the extreme: the goal apparently is stories that … unless really exceptional … run a minute and 45 seconds or less. Geez! What kind of depth can you get into that way? If someone in Global management wants to explain to the viewers the new format/vision …feel free to use this forum. h.o.)

  • 10 e.a.f. // Sep 12, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    D.M. Johnston said it all for me when it comes to coverage.

    In terms of watching, its channel 6 from Victoria at 5:00, then Global national at 5:30 and at 6:00 local CTV (sometimes if they are actually reporting news), at 6:30 American CBS national news. During the day its CBC and later in the evening.

    most news coverage is the first 10 minutes, if that.

    On one weekend evening news Global had approx. 8 car accidents and shoot em ups first. Like who cares. Nothing going on in Europe, Syria, Ontario, or B.C. etc.?

    The Child Advocate for B.C. 2 weeks ago, issued her report on the death of a teen age boy who had waited over 250 days before committing suicide because he couldn’t get help. Now that was a story which could have been done. All the news casters did was report a 15 second blurb. Stories which are important to people living in B.C. wouldn’t even cost that much to put together and do a 5 or 10 minute report on the conditions facing children with mental health issues in this province.

    There is no follow up either with the local news organizations. They did a couple of reports on the lack of family doctors in B.C. and it wasn’t bad. Now, you think some one might consider checking in with the minister responsible to see how things have improved or not. Did they? of course not. it would have been more interesting than watching 8 car accidents and shoot em ups. (I only watched it to see how long it went on for)

    hell, Vice T.V. provides more information on the vacant Out Port Villages in NFLD. That was actually interesting.

    CBS provides some American coverage, along with a bit of international. PBS news is good. The News from Vancouver stations, CTV at 6:00 p.m. is the best out of a bad lot.

    I can always go to my home page with the CBC news and read all I need to in 5 minutes. Then its off to Canadian, American, and International blogs.

  • 11 John's Aghast // Sep 12, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    Not that anyone cares, I’m sure, but my TV has only been turned on once in two years, and that was just to see if it still worked. (It does!)
    I get my news from Harv, Norm, Laila and Ross. Grant too, when he’s about.

  • 12 James // Sep 12, 2016 at 4:00 pm

    Fully agree with D.M Johnston’s post. I gave up on the Global Morning news when it became more of a morning group chat. How ever I must say that Steve Darling is a great broadcaster and I enjoy watching him present news/sports

  • 13 r // Sep 12, 2016 at 4:15 pm

    get tony parsons back and interview some BC bloggers.Do a story on a topic the public might like to know about other than the usual like BC debt or an in depth weekly investigative series. like where do all out export raw logs go?

  • 14 HL // Sep 12, 2016 at 5:15 pm

    Sometimes I wonder if Global even knows what news really is. A week or so ago the opening news story for the morning, afternoon and evening news shows was about a roadkill bear, and the driver leaving the scene of the “crime”. For those of us living in the hinterland, roadkill animals is a fairly regular occurrence, and leaving the scene (if your vehicle is still road worthy) is not a crime.

    (Response: Really …. the lead story? Didn’t see that one… mercifully. h.o.)

  • 15 HL // Sep 12, 2016 at 5:28 pm

    I would dearly love for the MSM in this province return to the good old days style of news coverage and reporting when they actually held the governing parties feet to the fire.
    Just imagine our current crop of politicians, both governing and in opposition, trying to pull the wool over the eyes of someone like the late great Jack Webster.

    (Response: I get the feeling most of the radio/tv political reporters these days are non-smokers …and therefore have no matches/lighters to ignite ANY fires! h.o)

  • 16 Merv // Sep 12, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    Off topic because it was the CBCVancouver, apparently a distant third or lower on the scale (though I don’t think it’s really worse than Global or CTV… 6 PM news on a weekday recently.. first half hour was fully 25 minutes of animal stories. I wish I were exaggerating. On a weekday.

    I complained and received a polite thank you for the feedback… Within minutes CBC Vancouver tweeted out a story about plums robbed from a neighborhood tree in Langley.

    Jesus wept.. I wept too.

    (Response: If you wept at their content these days …you’d probably sob openly if they revealed their annual budget! And how many total personnel they have producing their local show. h.o)

  • 17 e.a.f. // Sep 12, 2016 at 6:42 pm

    We finally know why former B.C. Lieberal cabinet minister, Pat Primm, was arrested. CTV reported it as a domestic/. On the other hand C.B.C.’s website has it up as assaulting his wife. Why the press didn’t chase that one I’ll never know, o.k. I do, but you know……

    This evening CTV spent 10 minutes on news and then went to the boa constrictor story and bad bicyclists.

    On the other hand, Victoria’s local/independent T.V. news reported again on the negative impact the B.C. Lieberals decision to claw back money from the disabled is going to have. They spent a few minutes on it, including a statement by the Minister as she was off to the Para. Os. As one group complained, she gets to go to the Os. and the rest of the disabled won’t be able to go to their exercise classes because they can’t afford to pay for the bus passes.

    This is a story which ought to be covered by the MSM. Voters have a right to know how the B.C. Lieberals treat the disabled. They clawed back their first increase since 2009 by making them pay for bus passes. One cabinet minister described this as a “fair” action. Might have been good if the reporters had explored that one a tad more.

    We have people, adults and kids dying from Fent. but is it covered in any meaningful manner, like in holding the Minister responsible’s feet to the fire? Not so much.

    the media is not the media of when Harvey worked. they give government a pass. they don’t report on how our taxes are spent or what is truly happening in our province. Really why bother even having the news anymore on T.V. beyond that it is traditional. They could run sports and make more money and most of us wouldn’t be any the less informed.

    While this post is up, it would be interesting to see if there was any improvement in the news.

  • 18 Barry // Sep 12, 2016 at 7:07 pm

    BCTV lost me when for the year end interview of the premier, who did they use? Not one of the [few] real reporters that they still have, but that giant of investigative reporting, an interviewer that makes subjects tremble at the mere mention of his name, the one, the only Squire Barnes!!!

    For a few seconds I thought it was a joke, then I realized they were serious. To avoid insulting my intelligence, you should have put Squire in a clown getup, that way we all would have been in on the joke.

    And those in the media wonder why more than a few of us think that BCTV is nothing more than an infomercial for the BC Libs. The legacy of Webster, Bell, et all has been well and truly sent down the toilet!

  • 19 Howard // Sep 12, 2016 at 7:21 pm

    As a creature of habit, I often start watching the news at noon while I’m eating my lunch until Squire Barnes (dressed like a slob) starts up with his tedious foolishness. I’ll stay if Claire Newell is coming on with her “travel tips” – (I’ve learned so much from her), otherwise it’s off to Hot Bench, The Rockford Files, or whatever until I finish my lunch.

    So much wrong at Lake City, yet they win awards
    for their news offerings while so many people think they suck – go figure!

    Without a doubt though, there is wealth of talent (curiously mostly female) at Global: Sonia Deol
    (a superb anchor), Anne Drewa, Mark Madryga,
    Kate Gajdosik, Robin Stickley, and the multi-talented Jill Bennett who I’d put in charge of the whole operation.

    Nice core of really capable people to work with to put out a first class product!

    (Response: There ARE still some very good talented people there …and at CTV too. I just have trouble with so much police blotter and puffery content..but then again, I …and I suspect many others who read this blog …are NOT the target demographic! h.o)

  • 20 Paolo // Sep 12, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    Haven’t commented on here in a while; summer has been crazy busy! Hope you’re doing well.
    I am (or will eventually age into) the target demographic these news organizations chase after. I do not appreciate having the news dumbed down. Sure, the flashing lights of first responders will catch one’s attention, but when flashing lights, police press conferences, and animals lead the news ad nauseam, it becomes frustrating. These stories are, for the most part, noteworthy, but what about issues that affect BC residents in their everyday lives? People want to see the government held accountable for its actions and actually questioned by the mainstream media instead of seeing press conferences without analysis. The lack of investigative reporting and the incessant, often cringe-worthy banter on the news (instead of actual content) doesn’t entice me to watch it much anymore.

    (Response: Welcome back! Someone once told me the new target demographic for TV news is a Mom in her mid to late 20s . even early 30s (the hubbie apparently usually follows along and watches what SHE wants.) She makes most of the decisions about what to buy (furniture, food, most toiletries, cleaning supplies, health products … ie a lot of the things you see advertised on tv. … interestingly, except cars/trucks.) As for content, the things YOU want to see cost more to cover (research time, experienced journalists, with not just honed interviewing skills, but also historical and political knowledge, even travel) and looks to me like that’s not what their Mom target cares about, so the emphasis now is spending instead on technology behind the scenes, live broadcasting and police/traffic etc. h.o)

  • 21 Diverdarren // Sep 13, 2016 at 5:20 am

    “Ratings for TV News programming in Canada (unlike the US) are often TOP SECRET…
    However, some recent figures I have obtained…”

    Still working your contacts ;)
    I guess old habits die hard.

  • 22 morry // Sep 13, 2016 at 10:16 am

    “Ratings for TV News programming in Canada (unlike the US) are often TOP SECRET…”

    Typical. Hide the real Data from People. And the MSM and Journalists what others to be open and truthful. Hypocritica.

  • 23 Jay Jones // Sep 13, 2016 at 11:47 am

    They may not be producing world-class programs these days, but at least their building isn’t scuzzy looking inside or out.

    The same can’t be said for many members of metro Vancouver’s (no longer world-class?) business community.

  • 24 E. Johnson // Sep 13, 2016 at 11:50 am

    Perhaps us folks in an older demographic should be their target Harvey. They are dreaming if they think the twenty, thirty and forty something’s are sitting down to watch the 5 pm or 6 pm news. Most of them are arriving home work, rushing through dinner and getting children off to various activities, homework, etc. They seek news via online sources as time permits. Although my spouse faithfully watches the evening news I tune most of it out by engaging in other activities. In my opinion the news has been dumbed down to the point of being unwatchable. Surely there is a market for diligent investigative news reporting and intelligent analysis of same.

    (Response: I would hope there’s a market interested in us …. many of us have more disposable income than the younger viewers. The problem is we don’t spend as much: we already have more furniture, tvs, fridges, ovens, cars, clothes, shoes etc than we really need … so many advertisers target those more likely to spend …even go into debt to do so. h.o.)

  • 25 dan fourneaux // Sep 13, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    Harvey,

    Thanks very much for the time and trouble you spend on this blog and the relevant topics you provide on this forum.
    As far as I can tell there no longer appears to be any real journalists , reporters or investigators on our local stations, just news readers. Most likely another exercise in cutting costs to increase profits.
    It almost seems to me like they are trying to become part of social media crowd, trying to catch the internet/twitter/Facebook demographic. All these little chats by news staff discussing the latest trends, movies, celebrity rumors along with chefs cooking up their latest recipes and videos which belong on You Tube, not on a newscast. I find their little talks nauseating, almost as though they are trying too hard to make us “like” them.
    Is it possible that a lot of people are not really interested in our local government, politics, and social issues that can affect our daily lives. Are people that busy? This might explain why news stories are no longer than one minute fourty five seconds. It’s easier to look at their smartphones.
    Today one of CTV’s leading stories at noon was about a woman who had lost her dog. Good lord why is this news?
    Please continue with the whale sightings, lion cubs and panda videos. One can never get enough of those.
    Maybe they should cut their news hours in half, just providing us with just the information that really matters . This might also save them money. Then I could maybe watch a Seinfeld rerun or something else instead of the drivel they now try to pass off as news.

    (Response: Thanks. Cutting the shows would make things even worse: they’d probably get rid of even more people and just do police blotter and fluff … no time for ANYTHING in depth. I know police blotter stuff now rules, but they could still do much better with their coverage of City Hall, Metro issues and especially provincial politics. Hard to believe that used to be fun to do, with really hot questioning and apparently very informative and entertaining for viewers to watch. h.o.)

  • 26 RIsaak // Sep 13, 2016 at 8:45 pm

    The current crop of media outlets (Global, CTV, CBC, NW) all have lost me as a viewer/listener long ago. The smarmy hosts, fluffy topics and the seemingly stubborn refusal to question sitting elected officials (Civic, Provincial & Federal) about the many condescending and heavy handed actions of our governments is the cause. I accidentally tuned in a Bill (nauseatingly) Good spot on WX the other day, what a load of partisan BS, Good never was anything remotely resembling a integrity laden journalist, the reasons are so obvious. Kieth Baldrey is obviously enjoying the free lunches and while he somewhat appears to be wearing the proof, his wardrobe is so 70′s UBC, as are the leftovers on his sweater, but his wardrobe is harder hitting than any piece I’ve seen since the NDP had power. My kids (30′s) don’t watch tv news at all, they actually pass a tablet around while eating and take turns reading blogs, they are the target demographic if I recall correctly. I’ve tuned out all the news sources from my younger days, tv, papers & radio. So much less tracking needed as I just avoid them collectively due to a Province wide shortage of sufficiently sealing, nasal cavity clothespins, oh the stench they all seem to emit!

    (Response: I still watch TV news …mostly for the pictures and instant views of things happening. But as I mentioned in another response, I PVR it and then speed through it later, stopping only at what interests me. Often I get through an hour-long show in 10 minutes! You may also try to turn your kids on to the huge selection of informative websites and independent blogosphere writers and ranters! Of course, remind them to be careful: anyone can publish almost any kind of unsubstantiated gibberish on-line, but if they’re selective, there are a lot of good things to read and explore…. and VERY IMPORTANTLY, on many sites even participate in discussion read by thousands of people each time. h.o.)

  • 27 Sean Ciroc // Sep 13, 2016 at 10:05 pm

    HO – Local TV ‘news’ … you’re kidding right!?! Talk about a ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ fest! Wake me up sometime please!

    Ok don’t laugh but I do confess – I’ve enjoyed CNN AC360 & Don Lemon over the last few weeks – very informative & entertaining!

    And locally can include Pacific Northwest right!? Kiro News & Komo at times have been great to watch!

    I refuse to allow myself to be bombarded with Lieberal lies promoted by local news!

    Cheers

    (Response: Seattle stations are no longer “local” for me. They used to be, when the border was welcoming and hassle free: used to love getting away to Seattle/Bellingham …so found myself watching their local news on occasion to keep up with what was up in our backyard. But now, crossing the border …even with Nexus …is a sour experience: yes, they have a right to secure their frontier, but too many (not all) are distinctly unpleasant as they do it…so only rarely drive across to shop or weekend anymore. And thus, no need anymore to know what shopping or happenings are in Seattle or even Bellingham, so stopped watching Seattle area news. Now even I am GUILTY of going OFF TOPIC! h.o)

  • 28 2K // Sep 13, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    The most annoying thing about globals noon-news hour is not having the right ingredients in the house for their recipe of the day. How dare they present such exotic culinary adventures!

  • 29 AndyO // Sep 14, 2016 at 6:17 pm

    Harvey;

    I find, for the most part, some of us, and I wish it was all of us, wants to see in-depth reporting on stories. But as everyone has rightfully said on your forum there is very little if not any of that anymore. The stations now seem to be pushing their “persanailties” as celebrity rather than the stations news content. I am sure Jill Krop moved Sophie Lui to the 6:00 shift because she felt people liked her and to have two personalities at the desk like CTV’s 6:00 show with Killeen and Taggert. Darling on the Global Morning is a wonder but maybe their polling shows people like him. Here I go, but years ago you didn’t see reporters and anchors on every local news mag in the super market, their likes, family stories, and life’s tragedies. We respected anchors like Parsons etal and watched because of that. It was a matter of trust rather than likeability.

    Maybe in Jill Krop’s directorial situation, she should start thinking about getting new blood in rather than moving the personalities she leads from show to show. Doesn’t seem to be working.

    (Response: Anchors are celebrities of sorts…because they are front and centre for an entire show, five days a week, and they try to sell us their personalities, as well as supposedly knowledge and gravitas to get us to watch. But reporters should NEVER be celebrities…just good story tellers whose forte is bringing us information and the truth …and asking questions YOU would ask … all hopefully in an interesting way… with great pictures too. Personaslly, I care more about the reporting …not the anchors. h.o)

  • 30 Norman // Sep 15, 2016 at 12:28 am

    CTV News Vancouver might have a few capable reporters but the organization’s management certainly has no real commitment to reporting important events. If they did, they would not have dedicated 2 1/2 minutes to the lost dog story mentioned above by Dan Fourneaux. I noticed it while watching my daily PVR spin through TV’s daily news. (Thank heaven for the skip button on our remote controls.)

    If CTV wants to jump past Global in ratings, they should try losing the fluff and adding some honest and hard nosed examination of local issues. This idea that important stories are not “TV friendly” is just rationalization for laziness and bad performance.

    (Response: I agree completely, , Norm, with your second paragraph. If CTV really wants to surpass Global, adding more investigative and in-depth coverage of “issues” could be the key to attracting those ADDITIONAL viewers who want more out of a newscast than the daily … but I will concede now popular … police yellow tape extravaganza. h.o.)