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	<title>Comments on: Debate #1: I Told You So &#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Grant g</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/debate-1-i-told-you-so/comment-page-1/#comment-2590</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree completely, have you watched the CBC(all liberal all the time)
Canwest global  all liberal

CKNW--Good--Clark --all liberal all the time

Here is a little something I picked up watching the french debates(something none of you deaf dumb and blind media could spot)
Harpers translator in the french debate fumbled,mumbled,stuttered and came accross like a mental defective!

Dion`s translator was fluid,smooth,translated with flare 
Re-watch the french debate if you doubt my observation!
Last point--How many times has CPAC played the Danny Williams ABC campaign on national broadcast? Over a dozen times--Cadman--plagerize--scary agenda--

I guess if your another deaf,dumb and blind media member---You should stay retired!

(Response: It&#039;s kind of funny ...but so predictable. In my 38 years as a reporter, I was always amazed at how, even when I wrote things critical of leaders on the left, their pronouncements etc .. their supporters and defenders would always almost happily discuss and debate what I wrote without making immature silly remarks. BUT when someone is critical of a politician or policy on the right..the right wingers SO OFTEN (but thankfully not always) respond with silly remarks like your last line.  Just listen to the radio talk shows and you&#039;ll soon hear what I mean.  LOL.   ho)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree completely, have you watched the CBC(all liberal all the time)<br />
Canwest global  all liberal</p>
<p>CKNW&#8211;Good&#8211;Clark &#8211;all liberal all the time</p>
<p>Here is a little something I picked up watching the french debates(something none of you deaf dumb and blind media could spot)<br />
Harpers translator in the french debate fumbled,mumbled,stuttered and came accross like a mental defective!</p>
<p>Dion`s translator was fluid,smooth,translated with flare<br />
Re-watch the french debate if you doubt my observation!<br />
Last point&#8211;How many times has CPAC played the Danny Williams ABC campaign on national broadcast? Over a dozen times&#8211;Cadman&#8211;plagerize&#8211;scary agenda&#8211;</p>
<p>I guess if your another deaf,dumb and blind media member&#8212;You should stay retired!</p>
<p>(Response: It&#8217;s kind of funny &#8230;but so predictable. In my 38 years as a reporter, I was always amazed at how, even when I wrote things critical of leaders on the left, their pronouncements etc .. their supporters and defenders would always almost happily discuss and debate what I wrote without making immature silly remarks. BUT when someone is critical of a politician or policy on the right..the right wingers SO OFTEN (but thankfully not always) respond with silly remarks like your last line.  Just listen to the radio talk shows and you&#8217;ll soon hear what I mean.  LOL.   ho)</p>
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		<title>By: Source</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/debate-1-i-told-you-so/comment-page-1/#comment-2537</link>
		<dc:creator>Source</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 03:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HOHOHO;

I read this posting and then read the papers this morning and thought...Harvey, NAILED IT!

Having just watched the English debate I thought that there is actually some hope for this country with the thoughtful, intelligent passion that the leaders (whether I agree or disagree) showed. But the popular misconception, promoted relentlessly by the media, is that this is boring stuff indeed. Which strikes me as being quite disrespectful to the people who dedicate themselves to this country.

The scrums afterward are on now and I&#039;m actually quite shocked at the partisan nature of the questions (and my partner wonders why we have a translator with an Aussie accent).

In my opinion, the media continues to fail on every level. In response to D. Olson, it now seems that the role of media is to comfort the comfortable and afflict the afflicted. 

I liked the format of the debate...and  I think the only solution for the left in this country is for Green Democrats. And I believe that Canadians know their media is failing them but don&#039;t know what to do about it. How do we as citizens enforce the Broadcast Act? How do we make the CRTC accountable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOHOHO;</p>
<p>I read this posting and then read the papers this morning and thought&#8230;Harvey, NAILED IT!</p>
<p>Having just watched the English debate I thought that there is actually some hope for this country with the thoughtful, intelligent passion that the leaders (whether I agree or disagree) showed. But the popular misconception, promoted relentlessly by the media, is that this is boring stuff indeed. Which strikes me as being quite disrespectful to the people who dedicate themselves to this country.</p>
<p>The scrums afterward are on now and I&#8217;m actually quite shocked at the partisan nature of the questions (and my partner wonders why we have a translator with an Aussie accent).</p>
<p>In my opinion, the media continues to fail on every level. In response to D. Olson, it now seems that the role of media is to comfort the comfortable and afflict the afflicted. </p>
<p>I liked the format of the debate&#8230;and  I think the only solution for the left in this country is for Green Democrats. And I believe that Canadians know their media is failing them but don&#8217;t know what to do about it. How do we as citizens enforce the Broadcast Act? How do we make the CRTC accountable?</p>
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		<title>By: D. Olson</title>
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		<dc:creator>D. Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if they have their reviews written before the show, how can we expect voters to act anything but &#039;sheepish&#039; when the poll doors open?
One can&#039;t be too surprised at the &#039;NW slant, their listeners are pretty deep into the koolaid (well, different koolaid than mine!), and the Province doesn&#039;t need to hide its tab nature. That the Sun editorial board can be so blatant seems to be the big shock (but as you say not completely unexpected).
Where are the gate keepers, the idea that the press is to &#039;comfort the afflicted, and afflict the comfortable&#039; (not to intimate that Dion is the afflicted, but being that journalism had developed into a healthy &#039;holding government accountable&#039; dictum, why has that disappeared? Harper is running on nothing as far as federal policy is concerned)... I wonder if there isn&#039;t too many &#039;comfortable&#039; people running the show now, who perceive that the issues of the day evolve around tax cuts, traffic to the north shore, and how to get rid of those dirty homeless people should be everyone&#039;s concerns.
I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve got great insight on this.

(Response: I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a case of their reactions being pre-written ... it&#039;s more a case ...as I&#039;ve written about before on Aug 26  Media Conspiracy:Myth or Reality (check the archives Aug 28) that I believe the major private media mostly hire those who support their political points of view .. so they ..and we...get pretty predictable stuff on any topic.  ho)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if they have their reviews written before the show, how can we expect voters to act anything but &#8216;sheepish&#8217; when the poll doors open?<br />
One can&#8217;t be too surprised at the &#8216;NW slant, their listeners are pretty deep into the koolaid (well, different koolaid than mine!), and the Province doesn&#8217;t need to hide its tab nature. That the Sun editorial board can be so blatant seems to be the big shock (but as you say not completely unexpected).<br />
Where are the gate keepers, the idea that the press is to &#8216;comfort the afflicted, and afflict the comfortable&#8217; (not to intimate that Dion is the afflicted, but being that journalism had developed into a healthy &#8216;holding government accountable&#8217; dictum, why has that disappeared? Harper is running on nothing as far as federal policy is concerned)&#8230; I wonder if there isn&#8217;t too many &#8216;comfortable&#8217; people running the show now, who perceive that the issues of the day evolve around tax cuts, traffic to the north shore, and how to get rid of those dirty homeless people should be everyone&#8217;s concerns.<br />
I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve got great insight on this.</p>
<p>(Response: I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a case of their reactions being pre-written &#8230; it&#8217;s more a case &#8230;as I&#8217;ve written about before on Aug 26  Media Conspiracy:Myth or Reality (check the archives Aug 28) that I believe the major private media mostly hire those who support their political points of view .. so they ..and we&#8230;get pretty predictable stuff on any topic.  ho)</p>
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