Just to let my readers know, I will be on CKNW 980 Saturday afternoon to talk with host Simi Sara about the Chief Electoral Officer’s handling … or maybe mishandling … of the HST petition.
The segment will air from 3:15 p.m. to 3:45 p.m and for those outside the Vancouver area, it can be heard on CKNW.com … listen live or via the audio vault after that.
Have a wonderful sunny weekend, all.
ho
34 responses so far ↓
1 SB // Aug 14, 2010 at 12:33 am
Go H.O
I hope you get a chance to say what the people really think and waht you are seeing from us ill listen and i never listen to NW anymore lookin forward to it
2 Paul // Aug 14, 2010 at 1:57 am
Here’s the direct link for CKNW live radio without going to their website and making their sponsors happy.
http://provisioning.streamtheworld.com/pls/CKNWAMAAC.pls
3 StandUpforBC // Aug 14, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Thought, then, that you might be interested in seeing this posting from Bill Tielman’s blog:
Eleanor Gregory said…
If the Chief Electoral Officer had simply followed the procedure set out in the Recall and Initiative Act the two pending court applications–the one launched by the business groups against the anti-HST petition and the one brought by Van der Zalm–would have proceeded anyway. Both applications are to be heard in the week of August 16.
Section 10 of the Recall and Initiative Act obliges the chief electoral officer, if he has determined that the initiative petition meets the requirements of the legislation and that the proponent has complied with the legislation, to send a copy of the petition and draft bill to the select standing committee.
There’s a “must” in that legislative directive, not a “may”.
In any event, under section 11, the select standing committee has 30 days within which it must meet to consider the initiative petition and draft Bill. Following that the standing select committee has 90 days to either table a report recommending that the draft Bill be introduced at the earliest practicable opportunity, or refer the initiative petition and draft bill to the chief electoral officer.
So by my count the standing select committee wouldn’t have had to meet to consider the initiative petition and draft bill until the second week of September, more than three weeks after the first court hearing date.
Seems straightforward to me.
4 Doesn't apply to me // Aug 14, 2010 at 5:20 pm
This article if from the fightHST website:
The petition has been submitted.
Vander Zalm: “If the Chief Electoral Officer won’t do his job, we will do it for him.”
Delta – Fight HST leader and Initiative proponent Bill Vander Zalm says that given Elections BC’s refusal to follow clear legislation outlining its responsibilities, his group has decided to submit the successful Initiative petition and draft Bill to End the HST directly to the Select Standing Committee for Legislative Initiatives so that the process can continue.
Vander Zalm says acting Chief Electoral Officer Craig James’ refusal to forward the successful petition is against the legislation. As a result, he says he was forced to submit it to the Standing Committee himself.
“The Initiative Act is very clear. It says the CEO must send a copy of the petition and draft Bill to the Select Standing Committee. And he must do it upon his determination that the petition met the requirements of the Act. This has been done. Therefore, it is not an option on whether he may submit the petition or not,” Vander Zalm explained.
Following is Section 10 of the Act, outlining the CEO’s duties:
Referral of initiative to select standing committee
10 If the chief electoral officer determines in accordance with the regulations that
(a) the initiative petition meets the requirements of section 7, and [the 10% threshold]
(b) the proponent has complied with Part 4,[Initiative spending ]
the chief electoral officer must send a copy of the petition and draft Bill to the select standing committee.
Vander Zalm says the petition does not belong to the CEO, but to the people, and the legislature is the only body directly answerable to the people. “Therefore, we have sent a copy of the CEO’s ruling validating the petition, as well as the draft Bill – “The HST Extinguishment Act” to the head of the Select Standing Committee, Mr. Terry Lake, as well as the other members of the committee.”
Vander Zalm says there is nothing in the Initiative Act preventing a third party from submitting the petition to the Select Standing Committee, and that since the CEO will not comply with the Act, his group was morally bound to make the submission instead.
“The law requires the Select Standing Committee upon receipt of the petition to meet on or before September 12, 2010. They must then to make a determination on whether to put the draft Bill to the legislature for a vote, or to return it to the Chief Electoral Officer to conduct a non-binding, province wide “Initiative Vote.”
Duty of select standing committee
11 (1) The select standing committee must, within 30 days of receiving a copy of the initiative petition and draft Bill under section 10, meet to consider the initiative petition and draft Bill.
(2) The select standing committee must, within 90 days of the date of its first meeting,
(a) table a report recommending that the draft Bill be introduced at the earliest practicable opportunity, or
(b) refer the initiative petition and draft Bill to the chief electoral officer.
“We have lost confidence that the CEO can be relied upon to carry out his duties faithfully and impartially. For that reason, and the fact that a non-binding Initiative Vote is a waste of time and money, we are instructing the BC Government that we will accept only one option – a free vote taken immediately in the legislature, resulting in the repeal of the HST,” said Vander Zalm.
Vander Zalm pointed out that anything less than the extinguishment of the HST will result in Recalls launched against all 46 sitting members of the BC Government.
“The people have spoken, and it is time for the government to listen. We have had enough of their games and slippery maneuvers. We will not let the people be denied justice on their petition,” Vander Zalm promised.
5 Doesn't apply to me // Aug 14, 2010 at 5:27 pm
What is very concerning is the following article:
Vaughn Palmer, Vancouver Sun
Published: Friday, August 13, 2010
Liberals free to change anti-HST proposal
Electoral officer says once the measure is tabled, the government has no obligation to enact it
Palmer writes: If the B.C. Liberals don’t like Bill Vander Zalm’s proposed legislation to extinguish the harmonized sales tax, they are free to amend it as they see fit or reject it altogether.
Link if you wish to read more:
http://www2.canada.com/vancouversun/columnists/story.html?id=e9d624fc-c4c1-4d9c-8bfe-b35e9913437f
What’s next?
6 Henri Paul // Aug 14, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Harv, this HST challenge by the Chamber of commerce, Business council, Mines association etc,etc, is a sham ,a stall, it will never go through the courts, the propose is to litigate and drag on the process until the HST is fully entrenched, and or the petitioners will have died.
And I dare say, the applies to the BC Rail Corruption trial,it all so will be litigated to death.
As I have stated many times before “there are no laws for outlaws”.
7 Paul // Aug 14, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Here is the direct CKNW Audio Vault link for August 14, 2010 (3PM-4PM).
This one-hour link can be listened to at any time and can be e-mailed to anyone who may have missed the original broadcast.
mms://av.cknw.com/cknw/20100814_15.wma?MSWMExt=.asf
8 Ruraidh // Aug 14, 2010 at 6:53 pm
It is a matter of some urgency to know who provided the electoral officer with legal advice.
(I have no doubt the same legal adviser will argue strenuously that this is covered by legal privilege).
Once upon a time, it was only the radicals (of the left and right) that said the legal system was designed to protect the wealthy and powerful.
After this and other events, I am not sure they were wrong, such is the atrophy of our political system.
9 SB // Aug 14, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Another point Vancouver Sun yesterday says what will the BC Libs do to replace the HST Revenues? what adamn crock and what will the NDP do either with reference to them being bad with taxes it appears , what is it with them is Van Sun editorial board that bloody stupid these were the same guys reporting this was revenue neutral , Martyn Brown must work there .
10 blueberi2 // Aug 14, 2010 at 7:13 pm
By the time you’ve reached the door of ‘NWs top floor studios you’ll no doubt be breathless under the weight of questions and advice from your blogline fans.
Here’s a couple more. We ask that acting EO Craig James let the public – particularly the 700,000+ petitioners – know:
1) Who provided the legal advice that he had authority to stall the process?
2) Given that the EO;s office now is sullied by the selective commentary to Vaugn Palmer, why did he not address the media generally?
We’ll be lisening!
11 Crankypants // Aug 14, 2010 at 10:49 pm
I just listened to you and Simi. You both made many good points. and am sure have endeared yourselves with the MSM. Good on you both. Maybe you will have lit a fire under some lackadaisical butts. They may have to forego a happy hour or two to actually chase down a story rather than just blindly accept that target A or B has ruled himself/herself off limits.
(Response: Thanks. My only concern about Keeping it Real is what happens if my RRSP’s run out?? Would you like fries with your burger? LOL! h.o)
12 Paul // Aug 14, 2010 at 11:25 pm
I’m glad that I got through with a question on CKNW about the Acting Chief Electoral Officer possibly getting legal advice from the same law firm that’s representing the business coalition.
Remember this?
Former B.C. Liberal attorney-general Geoff Plant: “The Chief Electoral Officer erred in law and exceeded his jurisdiction.”
The business coalition’s legal challenge is based on this Geoff Plant argument.
Geoff Plant (who was Gordon Campbell’s ex-roommate in Victoria) is also a current employee of the law firm HEENAN BLAIKIE which is handling this application, so Geoff Plant is not just making arguments, he’s making money.
Go to the Elections BC Political Contributions System webpage.
http://contributions.electionsbc.gov.bc.ca/pcs/SA1Search.aspx
PASTE “Heenan Blaikie” (without the quotes) into the “Partial Contributor Name:” field.
Click on the search button at the bottom and notice that this law firm has been donating thousands of dollars to the BC Liberal Party since 2005.
* Total Contribution For This Search: $39,044.00 *
And that’s not all.
This group of business organizations is being represented by PETER GALL, QC.
Go to the Elections BC Political Contributions System webpage.
http://contributions.electionsbc.gov.bc.ca/pcs/SA1Search.aspx
PASTE “Peter Gall” (without the quotes) into the “Partial Contributor Name:” field.
Click on the search button at the bottom. (Peter Gall – Principal Officer 2)
* Total Contribution For This Search: $13,789.00 *
Gordon Campbell has one golden rule:
The one who has the gold is the one who makes the rules.
13 Ruraidh // Aug 15, 2010 at 4:46 am
I looked at the following minutes::
http://www.elections.bc.ca/docs/eac/EAC-Minutes-20100305.pdf
Election Advisory Committee: Meeting Minutes
March 5, 2010
“Harry Neufeld reminded all EAC members that Elections BC makes recommendations on
the ‘plumbing’ or technical side of electoral legislation only and that public policy issues
are outside of the mandate of Elections BC. Public policy matters are best raised with
the Ministry of the Attorney General or Members of the Legislative Assembly.”
There is also another interesting quote
“Linda Johnson reminded Committee members that public policy must be decided by the
policy makers – it is not Elections BC’s role as an independent Office of the Legislature
to recommend changes to public policy. Elections BC does, however, identify outcomes
of public policy, track trends in other jurisdictions and monitor relevant court cases
regarding electoral legislation. Relevant information is then put forward in the CEO’s
report for consideration by legislators.”
Whatever the genesis of the Acting Chief Electoral Officer’s actions this week, it is clear that those attending this meeting were being forcefully reminded of the separation of electoral law and public policy issues.
Were they being prescient or were they already aware of the undercurrent of sabotage of the petition drive.
And now over to the MSM for an answer (perhaps).
(Response: Good luck! The points are good ones. They SHOULD be followed up …esp with those who said them earlier ..and those responsible now to protect the power and the supremacy of the legislature ..from their bureaucrats. h.o)
14 blueberi2 // Aug 15, 2010 at 8:14 am
You did a fine job of reshaping the HST news today, Harvey. So far your volunteer editorial team is days ahead of MSM in indicating who in the liberal party’s sweat lodge is paying attention to whom.
You made your points clearly without wasting any time in the ‘NW interview. And without doubt you rallied sufficient intelligent,motivated volunteers to dig into records to answer the questions.
But they’re just started. While Gordon Campbell’s former roommate and former AG, Geoff Plant, may be the primary coach of the acting elections officer on the HST stall tactics, he has yet to be asked whether he did so and why.
And tonight we can only guess the odds of Vaughn Palmer’s attempting to cover his backflap by asking the questions of of Plant on Monday morning. And what are the odds that that Plant would respond by citing solicitor-client privilege?
(Response:Thanks. Should be an interesting news week .. IF the media ask those tough questions. h.o)
15 Crankypants // Aug 16, 2010 at 7:08 am
I decided to do some investigating about the six business groups that backed the challenge to the FightHST Initiative and discovered some interesting things.
First of all, the Independent Contractors and Business Association has only one legal firm listed as a member that I could see doing a quick scan. That firm is none other than HEENAN BLAIKIE, LLP. It’s also interesting to note that this association has enough members to fill a phone book.
I believe that it was Jock Finlayson that made a big deal about some unions contributing to the FightHST Initiative and whether their members of these unions should be upset by this. I wonder how many of his members appreciate their dues being spent for this lawsuit.
The Council of Forest Industries yielded nothing exciting.
The Mining Association of BC shows BC Hydro as a member, which I find a bit odd.
The Western Convenience Store Association shows 7-Eleven Inc, Canadian Tire, Esso, Husky Energy, Mac’s Convenience Stores, and Petro Canada as retail Members. They also show The BC Lottery Corporation, Bic Inc, Coca Cola Bottling Ltd., Frito-Lay Canada, Nestle Canada Inc., Red Bull Canada and Weston Bakeries as associate members.
Coast Forest Products Association does show the Corporation of the District of North Cowichan and the District of Mission as members, which I find a bit odd.
The BC Chamber of Commerce supposedly has 300+ executive members, but when I tried the link I got a messgae that the page could not be found. Sounds a bit suspicious to me. They do have a link to member chambers which seem to be functional.
The reason I bring this information forward is that if a good number of the 700,000+ people that signed the antiHST petition decided to boycott some of the above mentioned businesses, they could have quite an impact on their bottom lines.
The way I see it is big business has the advantage of being able to gain the government’s ear either through lobbying or donations to their cause. While the individual can contribute, all they will get is correspondence for more money. I don’t think too many of us can afford to hire someone to lobby on our behalf. The collective voices of 700,000+ plus people, which is in the neighbourhood of 17% of BC’s population, is being disrespected by the government, Craig James and this group of six associations.
I suggest we start doing some talking with our wallets because our words are falling on deaf ears.
(Response: No it wasn’t Jock …it was Phil Hockstein of the Construction sector who wrote a piece about union’sc contributing 12% of Anti-HST campaign funding without consulting their members. And how much did corporations contribute to the pro-HST fight and court challenge without consulting their staff or customers? h.o)
16 Henri Paul // Aug 16, 2010 at 4:48 pm
Crankypants ,So, what about the rat unions ?Where are they in this contributing equation. For entertaining reading look up a rats union collective agreement or constitution, if you can find one.
Phil Hockstein must be the smartest fella in his bathroom stall.
He states that union’s contribute to Anti-HST campaign funding without consulting their members.
Here’s a little tip for you Phil, read the unions Constitution, before you shoot from your lip.
17 Ruraidh // Aug 16, 2010 at 4:50 pm
The biggest credibility problem for the Gang of Six and the Liberals is this.
The extra costs of the HST come out of BC taxpayers pockets. The benefits, and there are some, may well largely flow to shareholders and pension funds headquartered largely in Ontario.
If this is true ( but the government conveniently ignored leakage), the main beneficiary of the largesse of the BC taxpayers is the Ontario government.
So can the proponents of the HST point me to an economic study that shows there will be no or limited leakage of HST benefits to the corporate shareholders.
18 Kim // Aug 16, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Lobbying is becoming a huge problem here, with universities and municipalities forking over money to pay lobbyists to further their goals. The biggest problem is how well it works. Our government puts our welfare last on a long list. We have become merely a “special interest group”. We are Consumers instead of Citizens.
19 Henri Paul // Aug 16, 2010 at 5:47 pm
Kim said, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:09 pm,
We have become merely a “special interest group”. We are Consumers instead of Citizens.
——————————————————–
Lets function as consumers collectively.
Lets pick a few of the Chambers members to boycott , picket, guaranteed ,within a week or two they will relent and fold like a house of cards, then move on to the next supporter of anti democracy or supporter of HST.
We have the numbers and the strength, we could easily break many of them,if we so wish.
20 blueberi2 // Aug 16, 2010 at 6:42 pm
As a former news reporter /commentator with substantial experience in political coverage HO made a good point in that politicians and reporters alike tend to hang onto the same assignments far beyond their objectivity.
The theory that contempt creeps in once the work routine becomes familiar was evident on today’s early news.
Both Gordon Campbell and Colin “Huggies” Hansen – neither of whom has held a real job outside the political pit since the age of puberty – seem to have yielded the floor to MSM political columnist Vaughn Palmer, who’s been on the same political beat for most of his life.
All three show -if not outright contempt -at least disdain for the voting public’s intelligence.
Palmer’s attempt to explain the acting election officer’s approach to the HST petition suggests that either Palmer believes he has progressed far beyond the stage of asking questions to gain information and need no longer bother to interview the subject
Or
He has confused the job of unbiased observer with the role of apologist for the provincial liberals.
Today’s pattern of news reportage also may indicate that politicians and MSM reporters spend too many years close together memorizing the same speech pattern on the same political beat.
And the outcome may have been intended by the MSM owners in a desperate attempt to save costs in a system called “convergence.”
The convergence system depends on recycling the same tired old facts through electronic media/ printed pages/radio/TV treadmills until the news became so stale it sticks to the conveyor belt.
(This version of the media Stockholm syndrome also calls for MSM to hire Gordo and Huggies as radio talk show hosts. After they are recalled.)
(Response: I disagree about Palmer. I think he’s first rate. And as far as being a Liberal apologist, well just today he took on the “on budget” Liberal fantasy regarding BC Place …with devastating details about that original $325 million estimate for virtually EVERYTHING. And Palmer is a columnist: my concerns surround the reporters who cover specific beats. There is always a danger that after a decade, nothing new excites anymore; thery become too friendly with those they cover; lose their journalistic aggressivity and become complacent and I believe new blood, with new perpectives and a determination to break new stories should be the rule. h.o)
21 Crankypants // Aug 16, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Oops. I get Hochstein and Finlayson confused all the time. Maybe it is because they both sing from the same songsheet.
Thanks for setting me straight, Harvey. I don’t want to be accused of deliberately spreading misinformation because the BC Liberal Party hates competition.
(Response: LOL! h.o.)
22 Leah // Aug 16, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Crankypants, the CoC membership list seems to have been removed a couple or three weeks ago. The only way I was able to find it again was by using the Wayback Machine…and voila! Go here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050404052012/www.bcchamber.org/membership/corporatemembers.html
Now, when it comes to boycotting a business, I think we have to take the time to find which businesses are members of our LOCAL CoC…make certain they do stand behind the CoC decision to take us to court…if they do…boycott! I say that because I know there are a number of small businesses who are extremely angry with what’s going on – they weren’t asked for their opinion, nor their stance. It was assumed that because they’re members, they would go along. Some aren’t going along. It’s those businesses we need to protect with our wallets – the rest…well… .
As to Philip Hochstein ranting about unions donating, he has nothing to yell about. It was his association who paid for anti-NDP ads prior to the last two elections – $612,000 in 2005 and $267,900 in 2009 for a total of about a million. (Thank you Ian and Ross!) These don’t count as donations according to Elections BC though. Mind, with their latest stunt…I don’t consider what they have to say about what constitutes a donation as being meaningful.
I do have a more complete list of members of those backing the HST, along with donations made by them directly and some of their members as well…it’s an eye-opener. Curiosity made me sit at my computer for over 6 hours delving thru membership lists, and digging up those members in the provincial political contribution database…to find there is a good reason for these 6 to support the HST. Millions of reasons actually!
If Harvey allows, I’ll post what I’ve dug up – thus far.
(Response: Would be happy to look at it …please cite sources and ensure any donations mentioned were indeed for the pro-HST campaign. Not that there’s anything illegal about that…but folks might like to know. But remember, there are NO revenues for this site… and I sure dont want to spend my pension on legal fees1
h.o)
23 Laila Yuile // Aug 17, 2010 at 1:03 am
Harv ( and fellow readers! )
I located a list of the Chamber of Commerce’s corporate members and will be posting it shortly. It does seem all their links naming corporate members are gone since Elections BC refused to forward the petition.
While we await the outcome of this court challenge, I think it would be pertinant to let as many of these businesses know what we think of their implied or complicit participation.
(Response: Terrific Laila! Watch for it at http://www.lailayuile.wordpress.com h.o)
24 Willy P // Aug 17, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Chamber of Commerce info you ask? Try this link. And lean on member companies to pressure the talking heads.
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=http%3a%2f%2fwww.bcchamber.org%2fdirectory%2fcorporate.html&d=4733586654169328&mkt=en-CA&setlang=en-CA&w=e4ae8ba8,95b290a3
25 Lynn // Aug 17, 2010 at 4:52 pm
I have already started to sent emails to some of the companies Laila has listed, and began forwarding that list to family and friends who will in turn send to two and friends and so on, and so on.
If they want to go against the will of the people who abided by the democratic law of this province then they will face the wrath of our money walking by their door.
I guess they already knew that was going to happen otherwise they would not have removed the links on their webpage.
You greedy lil wankers.
26 Lynn // Aug 17, 2010 at 5:51 pm
I just recalled this quote Isoroku Yamamoto;
“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve”
WE ARE AWAKE!
27 Laila Yuile // Aug 17, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Ha, funny enough your CAPTCHA code was NDPp..lol..
I just wanted to mention that link from Willy P stops at letter T, and there are some businesses missing from the alphabetical directory.
It is also important to look at the other links as mentioned above by another reader, such as the Western Conveniance stores association, and think about letting those companies mentioned know that you may stop supporting businesses that are PRO HST.
Coca Cola is a big one, and remember that is also Dasani water, minute maid juices etc. Red Bull is a good one too, since they are so consumer savvy.
All in all, regardless if the court finds the action without merit, we must remember that these companies are supporting the tax that is hurting those who can afford it least, and that this tax was rammed down our throats without regard to democratic process.
(Response: Thanks. Boycotts are an individual decision, done for a myriad of reasons, but if there’s one thing companies understand, it’s their sales revenues … or drops in them. h.o)
28 blueberi2 // Aug 17, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Its a great idea to hit HST-supporters in the pocketbook. Among the local businesses that wave the flag in support of HST are a few close to the luxurious livelihood of finance minister Colin Huggie Hansen and his family. If you check out who owns and operates The Flag Shop that sells everything having to do with flag-waving occasions you might find the trail leads to Huggie’s cottage door. At the same time the smaller affiliated souvenior peddlers might be worth checking out. You might also run your research apparatus over the boards of local banks and credit unions, many of these second-tier outfits recruit directors with close connections to the provincial cabinet.
29 Kim // Aug 17, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Western Convenience stores are a great place to start, they’re on every corner! Mac’s, 7-eleven
http://www.conveniencestores.ca/index.php?option=com_contact&view=contact&id=2%3Awestern-convenience-store-association&catid=12%3Acontacts&Itemid=100004
I just sent them an email. Join me?
(Response: Let us know what they reply…. if they reply. h.o)
30 blueberi2 // Aug 17, 2010 at 11:30 pm
We may have missed a couple of steps in tracing The Flagshop’s ownership to finance minister Huggies Hansen’s door. It used to be owned by his mother-in-law, Doreen Braverman, who Business B.C. listed as (former) Managing Director, International Flag & Banner Inc. (The Flag Shop)
The magazine said that when she wasn’t running her chain of retail stores known as The Flag Shop, she is sitting on boards of directors at organizations such as the Architects Foundation of B.C., (her son is a member) and Coast Mental Health Foundation and VanCity.
She resigned as a director of GrowthWorks’ Working Opportunity Fund because she said people could perceive it as a conflict of interest, given that her son-in-law, Colin Hansen, is B.C.’s minister of economic development and is responsible for the fund.
Braverman’s shops generate approximately $6 million in annual revenue.
Other earlier references showd Huggies’ wife, Laurel?, had a hand in operating the stores alongside her mother, Doreen. Doreen’s other daughter, Susan, now is listed as owner of the store.
Someone with a little time to check earlier records might dig around to check what other relative influence directs the little family flotilla.
(Response: This illustrates one of the pitfalls of the Internet. People sometimes provide incomplete, wrong or no longer relevant info…usually not out of malice, just error. Thanks for the clarification and correction. Funny thing… I was there two weeks ago,bought a few things and told the clerk to tell Doreen Harvey O says hello … thinking she still owned the place.
h.o
31 Alexander // Aug 18, 2010 at 4:21 am
It’s time to “Out” these businesses that are attacking British Columbians Democratic rights!, maybe the companies that are funding this challenge should be published so that the average guy can decide whether to suport their businesses with our dwindiling disposible income…..always remember cockroaches always scatter when the lights are shon on them
32 blueberi2 // Aug 18, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Regardless of whose name appears as manager of the Flagshop there’s no indication that the outfit is owned by anyone other than the Braverman family, who are Colin Huggies Hansen’s in-laws. Consumers who intend to boycott HST businesses should be aware of the connection between Huggies and the flag shop.
33 Ron // Aug 20, 2010 at 1:59 am
Another plan of action is to get in touch with friends, relatives, and acquaintances that live in other provinces where they live and get them to boycott all these companies across Canada, because if the tax flies here, it will sure as s*it be hitting them next!
I’m starting to let the people I know across Canada about this and they have agreed to not shop at Canadian Tire, Esso, Petrocan and 7-Eleven, the banks, and let those companies know why they are being boycotted in their province. I’m sending them the lists as they are available. That’ll sure get their attention!
I am pulling all my business from Coast Capital Savings tomorrow because they blew me off when I asked about their stance on the HST and asked about their BC Liberal political donations. That will teach the money grubbers. They just lost $3k a month in business. Too bad, so sad.
I hope someone loses their job over that.
Now, does anyone know of a bank, etc. that doesn’t support this scam tax. I bet there’s no takers, hahahaha (money grubbers…he mumbles while poring over banks in the yellow pages to call tomorrow).
34 blueberi2 // Aug 22, 2010 at 8:25 am
Check whether Huggies (Colin) Hansen’s inlaws – last name is Braverman, long involvement with the Liberal party – are involved with a long list of local institutions including Vancouver City Savings. You may find a trail of outfits to avoid in terms of not investing or spending your money where they’ve just chopped your income off by 7%,
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