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BC Liberals Use Public’s Computers for Party Work

November 19th, 2012 · 47 Comments

It may be a crime.  Using taxpayer-paid-for facilities, equipment and supplies for personal or partisan purposes.

But that’s exactly what Liberal caucus staff did as they prepared to launch their anti-NDP anti-Dix campaign website.

And it’s not good enough for them , once exposed by The Province … yes, the MSM … to now admit a breach of BC Government Standards of Conduct and just say “Sorry”.

Heads should roll.

Because the ads and the campaign were not put together by some minor official working in a regional office (although even that would be totally unacceptable) but reportedly by Liberal-appointed government employees,  right at the Legislature, supposedly “working’ under supervision of the Premier’s Office and Christy Clark.

Inexcusable.

These are not neophytes to government: I don’t believe they can argue they didn’t know the rules or just forgot for a moment.

Looks to me like a blatant screw-the-public attitude: we’re in our government offices;we  have our government computers;we have  time to do it;   and, so what if we use all these facilities to communicate for the partisan benefit of the Liberal Party. No one is watching!

Ha!

Someone is ALWAYS watching and talking, especially when they themselves understand right from wrong and why there are rules to protect the public from partisan employees who apparently lack the ethics that tells them right from wrong.

And what could be more wrong than using those facilities and equipment to send messages back and forth as they worked on a highly partisan and nasty website and campaign attacking the NDP leader’s character with unflattering photos, name-calling and promoting Liberal interests.

Who knows what other uses of government/taxpayer facilities, equipment and even time are being used to do partisan  work … Liberal or NDP?

It reminds me of the “dirty tricks scandal” back in the 1970s when Socred (aren’t they now Liberals?) caucus workers did partisan work and even  wrote phony letters to the editor using other people’s names improperly.

Heads rolled then …and should now.

It will be an interesting …and enlightening … experience to see where the Liberals’ ethics are as they handle this one.

Harv Oberfeld

Tags: British Columbia · Media

47 responses so far ↓

  • 1 G. Barry Stewart // Nov 19, 2012 at 8:34 am

    Maybe this was the last time something was written down by Christy and her deceivers.

    It’ll be fun to see where this goes — and refreshing to see it reported in the Province.

  • 2 egress // Nov 19, 2012 at 8:59 am

    Here’s a link to the article

    http://www.theprovince.com/news/Caucus+workers+legislature+crafted+Liberal+Party+attack+website/7568145/story.html

  • 3 D. M. Johnston // Nov 19, 2012 at 8:59 am

    When a government becomes dishonest, it becomes totally dishonest, not just a tiny-weeny bit dishonest. Once a government crosses that threshold into dishonesty, it becomes corrupt and if the leaders of the government accept corruption, then they too become corrupt.

    If the supporters of a government accept this corruption, they too become corrupt and if the public accept that followers of a government are corrupt and do nothing, they too become corrupt as they accept corruption.

    The BC Liberal government is descending into a hell of its own making, just as the NDP and social Credit regimes did before. The real question in BC is: Have the NDP learned their lesson from 2002?

    (Response; they say it was a mistake…but judging by the number of people involved and the ease with which they exchanged e-mails …with government e-mail addresses no less, and no one is quoted raising a question or objection … I simply can’t believe this was the first and only time this was done. Hope some reporter raises this question! h.o)

  • 4 egress // Nov 19, 2012 at 10:08 am

    “For a glimpse of how manipulative and detached from reality many B.C. Liberals have become, one needs to look no further than a three-page memo written by party insiders that deals with the future of Burnaby General Hospital.

    Entitled ‘A NEW Burnaby Hospital’, the memo purports to lay out a strategy for winning three Burnaby ridings and boost the party’s chances in two Vancouver ridings.

    If it didn’t reveal such a crass and phony scheme to whip up public opinion over the hospital’s future, it would be laughable.”

    by Keith Baldrey, Special to the Richmond News November 14, 2012

    http://www.richmond-news.com/news/Liberals+memo+shows+party+delusion/7545661/story.html

  • 5 ron wilton // Nov 19, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Methinks a number of the aforementioned will be lining up to apply for EI benefits shortly after the next election.

    (Response: If they ANY ethics, it should not take that long. h.o)

  • 6 Lew // Nov 19, 2012 at 10:42 am

    I’ve been asking CKNW almost daily for seven months to look into the use of government resources raised in this article about BCChristy’s leadership campaign:
    http://alexgtsakumis.com/2012/03/05/christy-clark-must-resign-as-premier-of-british-columbia-part-i-the-case-of-the-stolen-pin-numbers-finally-revealed/

    Here is a quote from that piece:
    “Even Harry Bloy’s government constituency office was used as an outpost of the Clark campaign. Said one source on Saturday night last, “I know for a fact, I saw it with my own eyes, they were copying memberships and making calls. Constituency work was at a bare minimum. If we weren’t moving things along, we knew we’d probably get fired. Look what’s happening now…some of the people who know what was going on are being cut so that nothing leaks…”

    Nobody at ‘NW, and I mean nobody, from management to any number of talk hosts and reporters will even respond to my questions about it. I have e-mailed Philip Till daily every morning since October 24th when he decided to do the one-sided “spin” program on the ‘NW Adrian Dix interview while ignoring the BCChristy interview the day before. He won’t respond. Kudos to the Province. Shame on ‘NW.

  • 7 JR // Nov 19, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Harvey

    I am with you on this one. This was NOT a mistake. This was a deliberate act and no matter which Government is in power, Liberal, NDP or Conservative heads should and must roll. Like you indicated these are not neophytes that did this. Nothing less than firing will satisfy my take on this. Even if the Government I wanted was in power, currently that is not so, I would demand the same of them. This type of abuse is what turns so many of our youth, and others, away from the ballot box. I have enough trouble trying to ensure my voting age sons vote but this just tells them “you don’t matter!” We need this corrupt bunch voted out ASAP. I hope for an early election but won’t hold my breath.

    (Response; Refreshing that you, like I, feel the same regardless of the party in power. It’s simply not proper, and it’s tough to believe…the way no one questioned it…that this was the first time they used government computers in government offices for party work. Unacceptable. h.o)

  • 8 kootcoot // Nov 19, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Nothing feels quite as wonderful as being screwed by somebody using your own money to do it!

  • 9 Scotty on Denman // Nov 19, 2012 at 11:33 am

    If your headline had read “BC Liberals” instead of just “Liberals,” it wouldn’t have surprised many. Reading further and learning the head line refers to the disgraced, moribund and dying government of BC and not the federal Liberals (no relation) elicits a “so what else is new?” response.

    We can’t discount the possibility the BC Liberals, with their minds focused like that of someone condemned to be hanged in the morrow, might consider it fortunate that voters have come to accept their habit of unethical behaviour.

    (Response: Good point ..I’ve changed the headline now to BC Libs…to clear up any confusion. Hard NOT to have it though, with either the provincial or fdederal parties! h.o.)

  • 10 morry // Nov 19, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    “It may be a crime.”

    No it is a crime, no maybe about it. They are stealing taxpayer’s money plain and simple.

    And if they think a little slap on the hand is the only consequence then they are delusional.

    Charges should be pressed.

  • 11 212Degrees // Nov 19, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    Using the government’s response/logic on this issue, every criminal, illegal action and jail cell could be emptied and exonerated by acknowledging the crime and merely promising to do better in the future.. And the arrogant response and lack of recognition of moral conscience by the higher ups in the chain of command on this issue makes them as guilty and is as disturbing and inappropriate as the perpetrators of the original offence. In fact, they appear to be one and the same. Is it any wonder why people are suspicious of politicians and their true motives in their claims of serving the public’s best interests?

  • 12 Barry // Nov 19, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    Also, let’s not forget that Pamela Martin was campaigning for the Libs in the last set of by-elections in spite of officially being a “civil servant” and expressly forbidden to take part in such activities. [Thanks to Alex T for exposing this]

    This forms a pattern that I’m afraid leads me to believe our current prem sees the gov’t as nothing more than an extension of the party. She, and every Fibral has to go, and soon.

  • 13 Dalyce // Nov 19, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    Welcome to the wonderful world of our Dubya Premier…B.C.’s answer to George Bush. Too busy to have a Fall Legislature and now we know why! It must have been hard trying to allocate and disperse all those millions of taxpayer dollars on re-election gambits, whilst trying to run a province. Solution: flip the bird to the province and focus on Christy.

  • 14 Ron R // Nov 19, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    Anyone who steps down (or is given the boot) will be rewarded behind the scenes with a plum 2-3 year consultation job that will pay enormous amounts of taxpayer monies when the agreement is broken when the Lieberals get kicked out, which won’t happen until 2013. 2013 you say? Yep, there’s much more thieving to accomplish to call an election so soon.
    2013, you heard it here first…..
    The only way to stop this thievery is to take the purse-strings out of gov’t's hands and put the job of spending into INDEPENDENT AUDITORS who will do the taxpayers bidding with threat of minimum 10 year jail sentences (no parole whatsoever) and restitution for any monies re-directed. And then audit the auditors independently. Trust me, it will be a lot cheaper than the thievery occurring now.
    Anything else will just see this process get worse for the taxpayers!!!!!
    GET RID OF GOV’T NOW!!!!

    (Response: How? h.o)

  • 15 Len // Nov 19, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    I’m sure the lieberals are useing taxpayers money for their BS adds on glowball tv too

  • 16 chuckstraight // Nov 19, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Any government that pulls off this kind of bullshit has to go, and I don`t care what flavour .

  • 17 r // Nov 19, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    Nothing will happen .Just like noting will be put on paper.?

  • 18 Larry Bennett // Nov 19, 2012 at 6:49 pm

    Dalyce, why do you find it necessary to impune the good name of George W. Bush by comparing him to Christie Clark? I miss G.W.B. more, now than ever, and so might you, after 4 more years of Obama. They used to say that Bush Jr. used to swagger like some kind of cowboy. So some prefer the gazelle like sway of the other I suppose. Well, I will admit he does it better than that Clinton woman!

  • 19 chuckstraight // Nov 19, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Not a peep about this on Global- instead they ran a promo piece on Christy. If it was an NDP gov`t, wonder if it would it on the news?

    (Response: Too bad. I always loved to do these type stories. h.o)

  • 20 13 // Nov 19, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    While supporting the (BC) Liberals isnt an easy task, even a supporter would like to see some people fired. This ones a slam dunk and agreed that all those Canada starts here ads are electioneering. Maybe as a last gasp some advisor might take Christy aside and with some crayons draw her a picture depicting this theft of tax payer funds. I wont hold my breath.

    (Response: I just wonder how could they be so dumb …or is it arrogance? h.o)

  • 21 Mo // Nov 19, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    (Response: Too bad. I always loved to do these type stories. h.o)

    Harvey – I am afraid that the few reporters left at Global have had their teeth pulled. The News Editor wants them to do only “feel good” news stories.

    The News Room has been dumbed down to the level of social media: 140 character sound bites, exchange a joke and a nod and wink wink and all is well in Super Beautiful BC.

  • 22 RS // Nov 19, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    What else can you expect from a deceitful harpy who claims that, ” for creating the anti-bullying campaign ‘Pink Shirt Day’, she was named the 2009 Woman of the Year in BC by the Consumer Choice Awards.”

    Does she have no shame?

  • 23 MR // Nov 19, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Hi Harvey,

    One little thing to keep in mind, if the Ken Boessenkool fiasco was any indication, then it shouldn’t be hard to fire any and all involved in this little mess without so much as a Post-It notes worth of record keeping done! That should make things so much easier! LOL

    Good Lord what a Python-esque farce this gobernmint is.

    (Response: If only the Monty Python group were available! as an interim governmemnt until the election! h.o.)

  • 24 Crankypants // Nov 20, 2012 at 1:46 am

    This particular incident is worse than most but the reality is that our governing bodies have too much control of the public purse, the rules by which they perform their duties and the comfort of knowing that, if they have a majority, they are virtually untouchable until the next election.

    The article in The Province this morning named some of the people involved but one has to believe that the orders to perform the dirty deed came from much higher up the government’s food chain. Although the article stated that the guilty parties were apprised of the rules as a form of punishment I get the feeling that the only thing that occured was a round of high-fives. The taxpayers get fleeced again and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.

    We voters must face some facts. No matter who holds the reins of power we will still fund the costs of perks that our politicians do not deserve. We will still be on the hook for the exorbitant salaries and eventual golden handshakes awarded to people that get government jobs based on their political bent rather than their qualifications.

    Maybe it’s time we focused less on who is running the show and more on how the show is run.

  • 25 Dalyce // Nov 20, 2012 at 3:45 am

    Dear Larry,
    If you really think that the “Bush Baby” had a good name left to impugn, then you need to do some serious fact-checking. As for sashaying versus swagger, I’ll take a self-made, law review intellect over a daddy’s boy, beer-swilling bunyip any ole day pardner. The comparison between Bushie and CC stands…both of them forever frozen in an alternate reality of their own making.

  • 26 Larry Bennett // Nov 20, 2012 at 8:48 am

    He’s anything but self-made Dayce, there have been some very, very dangerous people in the creation of young Barry; maybe it is you who should do the fact-checking – and by “law review intellect” we presume you mean, he thinks like a lawyer. Fact is, the man has never brought in or balanced a budget or had a real job in his short life, and isn’t about to start now. You should flip over to Small Dead Animals, scroll down to Nov.17 and check out Judge Judy and the “entitled” ones! These are who vote Democrat these days.

  • 27 RS // Nov 20, 2012 at 8:57 am

    Mike Smith asks, “The Canadian Taxpayers Federation wants an independent audit, though the NDP said that’s not necessary, which makes me wonder if they pull the same crap with taxpayers’ loot.”
    http://www.theprovince.com/news/asking+independent+audit/7574215/story.html#ixzz2CmITWIzO

    Well Yeah! Let’s have an audit of all parties and hold them all to account.

    Sleazy is as sleazy does.

  • 28 Ron R // Nov 20, 2012 at 10:14 am

    I guess the Liar gov’t has put the foot down at the Sun and Province. I see no comments on any of the fiascos that have sprung up in the last while. I guess the comments are starting to get a little too close for comfort for Crusty-Loo.
    In Crusty’s own words in her interview with Jas Johal, “Aahhh-ummmm yah see, like, it’s like this Jas, yah know, aahhh ummmm” all the while her eyes are darting everywhere trying to think up another LIE. Then the verbal diarrhea starts with that same shite eating grin that Scambull always had on his face.
    C’mon Crusty spit it out. Tell us what you REALLY mean.
    Dolt…..

  • 29 212Degrees // Nov 20, 2012 at 11:00 am

    Where is our dear Premier’s response on this issue. Members of her office staff were implicated and named in the chain of Emails and yet no comment or response from her. Once again, the MSM give Clark a pass on this controversy and merely provide shallow and fringe coverage. Meanwhile, Clark, who should show some leadership by at least providing a comment, sits on the sidelines, collects her salary and enjoys the perks of her position and merely watches the passing parade.

  • 30 crh // Nov 20, 2012 at 1:17 pm

    The Times-Colonist today says that the employees involved were reproached and that is all that is going to happen. They also have some sort of warning put on their employee record. Looks as though a slap on the hand is all they will get and if that is not enough it will take all of us to do something about it.

  • 31 morry // Nov 20, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    they are only getting a slap on the wrist because A) they were directed to do what they did and/or B encouraged to do what they did.

    BUT once they were exposed there had to be an “appearance” of punishment.

    I think managers should be fired.

    And while we are looking at wasting taxpayers money … what in hell does Pamela Martin do?

    (Response:Pamela who? :) h.o

  • 32 Dalyce // Nov 21, 2012 at 4:08 am

    Oh Larry, you do make me smile :)
    You are like an old hunting dog with his favourite worn out bone. In reference to your (ahem)”factual conspiracy-laden” Obama drama please note (and feel free to check for yourself):
    Barack Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney in Chicago and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. He served three terms representing the 13th District in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. (Yes, he’s a millionaire with monies earned from a law practice, teaching, book authorship and a Senate seat…ergo, self-made).
    His wife Michelle followed the same path, attending Princeton University and Harvard Law School (a very astute lady in her own right).
    As to balanced budgets, numerous avenues were proffered, but were constantly blocked by the Repubs and TeaBaggers in the House of Reps. whose mindset is soooo very similar to our own corporate raiders here in B.C. (who love unfettered profits, but hate any changes to tax brackets) and who back our dear Premier Fluff n’ Stuff. You will probably also love to know that in B.C., along with the highest personal debt load, we now have the biggest financial disparity between the ultra-rich and the very poor in all of Canada, thanks once again to a decade plus of brothel politics from the ruling Liberal party. In short, Christy Clark is nothing but a poster girl for a party that has sunk so deep into a miasma of corruption and collusion that the best they can offer up as a leader is a political Kama Sutra Kewpie doll whose arrogance and ambition far outweigh her intellect and integrity. We’ll all vote our conscience come May 2013 Larry, but quite frankly, nothing is going save Premier Bimbette and her band of burlesque buffoons from their electoral comeuppance.

  • 33 RS // Nov 21, 2012 at 7:38 am

    Bravo Dalyce! Bravo!

  • 34 mariner // Nov 21, 2012 at 10:33 am

    Great comments Dalyce !
    To put things in perspective, our premier Chrusty Clark attended three universities and did not complete anything at any of them – otherwise known as a FAILURE !
    Seems that she has carried this approach over into her political career too!
    Thanks

  • 35 morry // Nov 21, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Dalyce has sliced and diced Larry to pulp. His fallacious fiction needed to be pulped.

    If your ego hurts Larry just apply some Teabags to the pain.

  • 36 Gumby // Nov 21, 2012 at 2:04 pm

    Why are some people picking on Larry Bennett, I`m personally thankful that Larry was..

    “Too stupid to die”

    For where else would we get our comic relief.

  • 37 Larry Bennett // Nov 21, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Dalyce, my dear – Judging from your last post, you appear to think me some kind of admirer of Christie Clark, but I share no political convictions with either her or the D.P’s. I’d far rather waste my vote on the B.C. Conservatives when the time comes around!
    ” … Columbia University, … Harvard Law School … community organizer/Chicago … law degrees …(First thing, we kill all the lawyers) … served in Illinois state senate etc., etc., … have you nothing good to say about the man? Almost every penny the man has made, came out of taxpayer’s pockets! The books he “wrote” were mostly ghosted – the books’ inspiration came mainly from his father’s hatred of colonial Britain, and the Christian thought it brought with it (though not always practiced) and the cessation of murderous, internecine tribal brutalities that had been the status quo prior to colonization. (and even long after: see Rwanda-Burundi) Remember, it was the Mahatma who said: The British Empire existed for the welfare of the world. And so, our man refuses proper protocol when meeting (our Monarch) but bows and kowtows and scrapes to the lords of the dunes! Of course with backers like Morry and Gumby, acting like besotted bobbie-soxers, you have me very worried!!!

  • 38 Alexandra // Nov 21, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    Ethic’s??, what Ethic’s Harvey??, the British Columbia government hasn’t had that for a decade now.

    (Response: It’s amzing what long years in power will do to a party ..any party. Especially when they finally get desperate to cling on to office …adn think they can get away with things. h.o)

  • 39 morry // Nov 21, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Larry enjoys belittling President Obama’s accomplishments. Perhaps because he thinks them inconsequential compared to his own accomplishments and laurels won.

    Larry Bennett do please list yours.

  • 40 13 // Nov 21, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    OUCH Im almost afraid to wade into the larry vs daylse war of words but here goes.
    Your both right Christie has proven to be less than stellar. Maybe less than a burned out night light. Okay maybe less than a candle in the wind. But the province is split about 50/50 so does anyone want to predict how many seats will seperate the victors (NDP) from the second place finishers. One web site has the NDP at 81 Libs 2 Ind 2. Frankly I doubt that the BC Libs will be reduced to two seats. But if that happens I hope that Dix gives them official opposition status. After all he is a smooth talker. Right?
    I wonder which two Liberals will keep their jobs?

  • 41 Larry Bennett // Nov 21, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    Sorry, Morry, I think it is proper that you list his, first!

  • 42 j // Nov 21, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    vote should move to april 1st
    must be running out of parachutes
    families first -15 million in advertising would of helped poor families first
    no wonder fall sitting was cancelled-how undemocratic.

  • 43 Larry Bennett // Nov 21, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    Gumby ….. Wasn’t that the little green fellow we used to be able to twist and shape into whatever we wanted him to be?
    “Comic relief” – ‘fraid not- Facit indignatio!

  • 44 Mo // Nov 21, 2012 at 8:56 pm

    “Sorry, Morry, I think it is proper that you list his, first!”

    Larry you are a low-life troll. And we are all collectively laughing at you.

  • 45 Gumby // Nov 21, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Oh Larry, I don`t want to talk about indignation of falatio…Get your mind out of the gutter.

    And no, that`s not a gumby joke either,

    From the urban dictionary.

    “Gumby

    A cool green guy from an old ‘claymation’ TV show. He is made of clay.
    “Oh no, Gumby! We have to save him!”

    I`m here to save Harvo from himself, and you too can be saved Larry…Although in your case Larry I`ll need the help of.

    My red horse named Pokey, Prickle the yellow dinosaur and my other blobby friend named Goo..

    A cool green guy coming to the rescue.

    Yup, that`s me!

  • 46 Dalyce // Nov 22, 2012 at 5:32 am

    Alas Poor Larry, We Knew Thee Well…
    Or at least our initial exchange led me to believe that your support of George W. was but a small hiccup of neoconservative indigestion. Unfortunately, in light of your more recent diatribe, it would appear that you are now channeling the likes of George Wallace, with an added dollop of Rudyard Kipling and the disingenuous regurgitation of that inglorious era of the “white man’s burden”. Politics, though a dirty cesspool in and of itself, (which grants little favour to any participant), is made that much more unpalatable when one drags in the rotting corpse of ethnocentric imperialism and religious intolerance. I fully support any person’s right to verbally abjure the tawdry, self-serving peccadilloes of our so-called political representatives. But, by trying to diminish an individual’s character, or call into question their accomplishments, (however great, or small), based upon racial invective, pretentious theological dogma, or a yearning for the so-called “golden era” of a more homogeneous society, one only succeeds in casting a greater shadow upon the source of the complaint, rather than the subject. It would be best to leave that type of xenophobic vitriol to a more welcoming arena (somewhere with a lot of white linen perhaps?) A good rant at our perceived impotence against a stacked political deck is worth its weight in stress therapy, but kindly leave your Pandora’s Box of dark matters tucked away for periods of personal contemplation. (Seriously…lords of the dunes? I happen to have a major soft spot for Lawrence of Arabia). Finally, as you are a follower of “the bard” with his disaffection for lawyers, I would like to bid a fond adieu to our verbal tête-à-tête with a more appropriate line from Julius Caesar which bids us to remember that, “the evil that men do lives after them, while the good is oft interred with their bones.” Final analysis: the people whom we elect are only as good as the electorate that chooses them… and we relinquish our right to complain by not bothering to vote. (Christy Clark needs to take her place as a tiny footnote in our schools’ history texts…lord willing, when she goes we might be able to afford new ones!)

    P.S. I happen to have a personal fondness for both Gumby and Pokey (sitting upon my bookshelf even as we speak). They remind me daily of an era when naïveté and a social conscience were not mere affectations of political aspiration.

    Tip of the hat to the cool green guy. :)

  • 47 Larry Bennett // Nov 22, 2012 at 9:21 am

    Dalyce – That was truly enough to gag a maggot. As for the people we elect being only as good as those who elect them; well then, I ‘m guessing your willing to live with your mistakes, because I didn’t elect them. And yes, enough of the parry and thrust, I will leave you with these words of a bard, be it only a wee white lad:
    An’ forward, though I canna see.
    I guess and’ fear!