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	<title>Comments on: Point: No Counterpoint</title>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/point-no-counterpoint/comment-page-1/#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard Canwest referred to as CannedWaste. Seems to be going that way when I compare it to the old Sun from my younger days, the time when it employed real journalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard Canwest referred to as CannedWaste. Seems to be going that way when I compare it to the old Sun from my younger days, the time when it employed real journalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Workplace Reform</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/point-no-counterpoint/comment-page-1/#comment-1493</link>
		<dc:creator>Workplace Reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again we&#039;re tuning in on the same thing, I cut Levitt&#039;s &quot;article&quot; out &amp; it was sitting in front of me as I read your story. 

Corporate hack lawyers/aspiring journalists are all about &quot;interpreting&quot; rulings for those who read the working and business sections, or HR types. 

It&#039;s time employers started to get that they ARE responsible for the holistic health &amp; wellbeing for employees in the work environment to some large extent. Employees often spend more time at work than at home, or with their families. They are asked to do more and more, give more of themselves away for the bottom line of some corporate board, or shareholders who don&#039;t know their name, or care a thing about them. 

Organizational cultures and environments have definite impacts on individuals and they are created, they don&#039;t just pop out of a bottle. 

Also, what the hell is wrong with showing some respect, compassion and concern for the dignity of employees. We&#039;re all human after all. You show me a disgruntled, mentally ill employee and somewhere in their story is how they were treated like crap at work. Employers have a duty of care and contract. These are fundamentals in jurisprudence. 

This article would make good liner for a bird cage, just like so much of what passes for &quot;news&quot; in Canwest. It must be really difficult for the &quot;real&quot; journalists to see what&#039;s happening to their craft and field. Harvey, as you know, being a good journalist is an esteemed and respected occupation, which contributes to the public good with fair comment that most citizens don&#039;t get a crack at. Or, it should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again we&#8217;re tuning in on the same thing, I cut Levitt&#8217;s &#8220;article&#8221; out &amp; it was sitting in front of me as I read your story. </p>
<p>Corporate hack lawyers/aspiring journalists are all about &#8220;interpreting&#8221; rulings for those who read the working and business sections, or HR types. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time employers started to get that they ARE responsible for the holistic health &amp; wellbeing for employees in the work environment to some large extent. Employees often spend more time at work than at home, or with their families. They are asked to do more and more, give more of themselves away for the bottom line of some corporate board, or shareholders who don&#8217;t know their name, or care a thing about them. </p>
<p>Organizational cultures and environments have definite impacts on individuals and they are created, they don&#8217;t just pop out of a bottle. </p>
<p>Also, what the hell is wrong with showing some respect, compassion and concern for the dignity of employees. We&#8217;re all human after all. You show me a disgruntled, mentally ill employee and somewhere in their story is how they were treated like crap at work. Employers have a duty of care and contract. These are fundamentals in jurisprudence. </p>
<p>This article would make good liner for a bird cage, just like so much of what passes for &#8220;news&#8221; in Canwest. It must be really difficult for the &#8220;real&#8221; journalists to see what&#8217;s happening to their craft and field. Harvey, as you know, being a good journalist is an esteemed and respected occupation, which contributes to the public good with fair comment that most citizens don&#8217;t get a crack at. Or, it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton Perrin</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/point-no-counterpoint/comment-page-1/#comment-1492</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayton Perrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Media owners have always used their newspapers/radio stations/TV stations as a bully pulpit (welcome to Asper-land). News has become a dollar driven part of business. Editors/newsroom assignors dare not offend the guys who pay the freight. Advetisers have taken over the bully pulpit. 
We now live in a society where Entertainment Tonight/Jay Leno/John Stewart have become forums for  legitimate &quot;news&quot;. If you are a politician running for office why would you put yourself in front of a real journalist (Dan Rather, yourself) when you can face Jay leno or Mary Hart? As far as the newspaper adverising sections disguised as news that is old hat for TV. Info-mercials have dominated the TV landscape for 25 years. They&#039;re cheap to produce, the advetiser absorbs the costs, not the TV station. Imagine being able to replace the news division with &quot;news&quot; at no cost, only revenue. I am surprised that somebody hasn&#039;t thought of this sooner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Media owners have always used their newspapers/radio stations/TV stations as a bully pulpit (welcome to Asper-land). News has become a dollar driven part of business. Editors/newsroom assignors dare not offend the guys who pay the freight. Advetisers have taken over the bully pulpit.<br />
We now live in a society where Entertainment Tonight/Jay Leno/John Stewart have become forums for  legitimate &#8220;news&#8221;. If you are a politician running for office why would you put yourself in front of a real journalist (Dan Rather, yourself) when you can face Jay leno or Mary Hart? As far as the newspaper adverising sections disguised as news that is old hat for TV. Info-mercials have dominated the TV landscape for 25 years. They&#8217;re cheap to produce, the advetiser absorbs the costs, not the TV station. Imagine being able to replace the news division with &#8220;news&#8221; at no cost, only revenue. I am surprised that somebody hasn&#8217;t thought of this sooner.</p>
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		<title>By: F.M.</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/point-no-counterpoint/comment-page-1/#comment-1490</link>
		<dc:creator>F.M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 03:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Harvey, Have you looked at any of this weekend&#039;s coverage of the Pemberton Festival?I wasn&#039;t at the festival myself, but read a number of blogs and other onlinesources (including the forums at the festival&#039;s own website) that were fullof complaints about the poor organization, overpriced food, lack offacilities for a crowd that size, etc. etc. There were similar themes in thestories on the CBC and News 1130 (for instance, last night News 1130 wasreporting that the RCMP were asking campers at the festival to stay overSunday night because of the traffic chaos during the later part of the dayand the evening.) Yet the stories in both the Sun and the Province - which had huge coverage of the event in the days prior to the start - reallydownplayed the problems to the point of ignoring most of them, and severalstories simply parroted the promoter&#039;s line about &quot;it&#039;s the first year sothere&#039;s going to be some glitches&quot; - which is ridiculous since the concertpromotion company is very experienced, and there are other festivalselsewhere that they could have looked to for ideas or help.I don&#039;t suppose the Sun and Province&#039;s perspectives have anything to do withthe amount of event advertising that the promoter buys during the rest ofthe year. That would be cynical....Sigh.Cheers, F.M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Harvey, Have you looked at any of this weekend&#8217;s coverage of the Pemberton Festival?I wasn&#8217;t at the festival myself, but read a number of blogs and other onlinesources (including the forums at the festival&#8217;s own website) that were fullof complaints about the poor organization, overpriced food, lack offacilities for a crowd that size, etc. etc. There were similar themes in thestories on the CBC and News 1130 (for instance, last night News 1130 wasreporting that the RCMP were asking campers at the festival to stay overSunday night because of the traffic chaos during the later part of the dayand the evening.) Yet the stories in both the Sun and the Province &#8211; which had huge coverage of the event in the days prior to the start &#8211; reallydownplayed the problems to the point of ignoring most of them, and severalstories simply parroted the promoter&#8217;s line about &#8220;it&#8217;s the first year sothere&#8217;s going to be some glitches&#8221; &#8211; which is ridiculous since the concertpromotion company is very experienced, and there are other festivalselsewhere that they could have looked to for ideas or help.I don&#8217;t suppose the Sun and Province&#8217;s perspectives have anything to do withthe amount of event advertising that the promoter buys during the rest ofthe year. That would be cynical&#8230;.Sigh.Cheers, F.M.</p>
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