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		<title>By: Myrna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myrna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just discovered your blog after hearing you on an Alberta talk radio show.  I love it! We stopped watching the evening news about 2 years ago, but do watch CHEK tv - it is real, much like your blog.
I have a small magazine I publishe here in rural B.C. and REALLY connect with the comments about real news and covering it in a real way.It is much appreciated by readers and criticized widely by the local &#039;establishment,&#039; who no longer even support me with advertisements once they realized we would not be &#039;managed.&#039;  Thanks for what you are doing - I also heartily agree with your comments on NW.   I Only listen to Christy Clark now, love her, wonder how long she&#039;ll last?

(Response: Welcome.  It&#039;s only a hobby ... no ads or sponsors ..just me telling it as I see it ...trying to get good discussions of real issues going ..and it&#039;s all spread by word of mouth or mentions by people who want to publicize it.  (For obvious reasons, many mainstream media, don&#039;t do that! :)  h.o.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just discovered your blog after hearing you on an Alberta talk radio show.  I love it! We stopped watching the evening news about 2 years ago, but do watch CHEK tv &#8211; it is real, much like your blog.<br />
I have a small magazine I publishe here in rural B.C. and REALLY connect with the comments about real news and covering it in a real way.It is much appreciated by readers and criticized widely by the local &#8216;establishment,&#8217; who no longer even support me with advertisements once they realized we would not be &#8216;managed.&#8217;  Thanks for what you are doing &#8211; I also heartily agree with your comments on NW.   I Only listen to Christy Clark now, love her, wonder how long she&#8217;ll last?</p>
<p>(Response: Welcome.  It&#8217;s only a hobby &#8230; no ads or sponsors ..just me telling it as I see it &#8230;trying to get good discussions of real issues going ..and it&#8217;s all spread by word of mouth or mentions by people who want to publicize it.  (For obvious reasons, many mainstream media, don&#8217;t do that! <img src='http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   h.o.</p>
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		<title>By: BC Mary</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/retirement-do-vindicates-my-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-58991</link>
		<dc:creator>BC Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for responding, Harvey, but the fact is: Vancouver Observer contacted me ... I was standing by to assist (for free) ... and they went quiet. 

They wouldn&#039;t have proposed the idea, if it had been inappropriate for their needs. That&#039;s what I couldn&#039;t understand (and am not a novice). 

However ... today, Vancouver Observer responded. Guess what? There was a glitch in their new computer software ... and all incoming e.mails had been sent to the Junk box. 

I&#039;m still shaking my head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for responding, Harvey, but the fact is: Vancouver Observer contacted me &#8230; I was standing by to assist (for free) &#8230; and they went quiet. </p>
<p>They wouldn&#8217;t have proposed the idea, if it had been inappropriate for their needs. That&#8217;s what I couldn&#8217;t understand (and am not a novice). </p>
<p>However &#8230; today, Vancouver Observer responded. Guess what? There was a glitch in their new computer software &#8230; and all incoming e.mails had been sent to the Junk box. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still shaking my head.</p>
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		<title>By: BC Mary</title>
		<link>http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/retirement-do-vindicates-my-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-58864</link>
		<dc:creator>BC Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an odd media story. Comments from Harvey (or others) would be welcome. 

I was contacted a few weeks ago with a request to do a feature story for a special print edition of VANCOUVER OBSERVER.  The topic: the trial of Basi, Virk, Basi. 

Being perfectly willing to work on a no-fee basis to tell the BC Rail story, I replied, asking about the deadline (fairly short), the word-length, and some idea of how much of this big story they wanted. 

The editor replied that they planned to do a 1-page spread using photos of all the players. The page would be tabloid size. 

Well, I realized that they had chosen an impossible task, so excused myself ... leaving an offer to proof or help.  

In due course, I received a first draft which I read, and offered some comment. I was thanked, and then ... nothing. 

Vancouver Observer has been published. No story appears about Basi, Virk, or BC Rail.  No clue about it coming later. Nothing. 

But the most puzzling thing is that I can&#039;t get a response from them. I mean, THEY contacted ME ... and there&#039;s a form to fill out on their VANCOUVER OBSERVER web-site for people wishing to contact them. I&#039;ve tried 3 ... maybe 4 times ... not a glimmer. 

Since Vancouver Observer is a production of the U.B.C. School of Journalism ... does this sound right to you? 

Something in me, says that UBC should NOT be giving up on the BC Rail story.

(Response: Whether in newspapers I worked for or at BCTV, there were always stories that were left on the editing room floor, for various reasons: they just didn&#039;t fit with the overall flavour the section they would have been published; something more interesting came along; too many articles/stories for too little space; legal concerns; poor writing etc. Magazines/journals have even greater problems than newspapers when it comes to space/focus. The bototm, line..when something is not used, it leaves room for all kinds of speculation: the fact they didn&#039;t reply can fuel that, but all it really proves, if they did receive your inquiries,  is that they are rude.  h.o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an odd media story. Comments from Harvey (or others) would be welcome. </p>
<p>I was contacted a few weeks ago with a request to do a feature story for a special print edition of VANCOUVER OBSERVER.  The topic: the trial of Basi, Virk, Basi. </p>
<p>Being perfectly willing to work on a no-fee basis to tell the BC Rail story, I replied, asking about the deadline (fairly short), the word-length, and some idea of how much of this big story they wanted. </p>
<p>The editor replied that they planned to do a 1-page spread using photos of all the players. The page would be tabloid size. </p>
<p>Well, I realized that they had chosen an impossible task, so excused myself &#8230; leaving an offer to proof or help.  </p>
<p>In due course, I received a first draft which I read, and offered some comment. I was thanked, and then &#8230; nothing. </p>
<p>Vancouver Observer has been published. No story appears about Basi, Virk, or BC Rail.  No clue about it coming later. Nothing. </p>
<p>But the most puzzling thing is that I can&#8217;t get a response from them. I mean, THEY contacted ME &#8230; and there&#8217;s a form to fill out on their VANCOUVER OBSERVER web-site for people wishing to contact them. I&#8217;ve tried 3 &#8230; maybe 4 times &#8230; not a glimmer. </p>
<p>Since Vancouver Observer is a production of the U.B.C. School of Journalism &#8230; does this sound right to you? </p>
<p>Something in me, says that UBC should NOT be giving up on the BC Rail story.</p>
<p>(Response: Whether in newspapers I worked for or at BCTV, there were always stories that were left on the editing room floor, for various reasons: they just didn&#8217;t fit with the overall flavour the section they would have been published; something more interesting came along; too many articles/stories for too little space; legal concerns; poor writing etc. Magazines/journals have even greater problems than newspapers when it comes to space/focus. The bototm, line..when something is not used, it leaves room for all kinds of speculation: the fact they didn&#8217;t reply can fuel that, but all it really proves, if they did receive your inquiries,  is that they are rude.  h.o)</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Harvey:

I am new to your site but I did hear you on talk1410 occasionally.  I have long said that the media (both TV and print) are no more than propaganda arms of the ruling elite.  I stopped watching TV news a long time ago.  I only occasionally pick up a newspaper.  With the demise of talk1410, I wonder who will hold the government&#039;s feet to the fire.

We no longer have a free press but a managed press.  We no longer have free speech but a managed speech.  I fear for this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Harvey:</p>
<p>I am new to your site but I did hear you on talk1410 occasionally.  I have long said that the media (both TV and print) are no more than propaganda arms of the ruling elite.  I stopped watching TV news a long time ago.  I only occasionally pick up a newspaper.  With the demise of talk1410, I wonder who will hold the government&#8217;s feet to the fire.</p>
<p>We no longer have a free press but a managed press.  We no longer have free speech but a managed speech.  I fear for this country.</p>
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		<title>By: BC Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>BC Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harvey:

Among so many former colleagues at the Cable retirement party, did you get a sense of what they think of other bloggers (besides an appreciation for your blog, I mean)?  I&#039;d be interested to know their professional assessment of the work many of us put into blogging.  Or are they all &quot;Morley Saffers&quot;? 

Also: after encountering a very informative little news service ... TERRACE DAILY ONLINE ... 

I thought it suggested a way of the future. I could imagine many small, independent news-blogs forming a network  to provide a very lively daily look at provincial affairs, at very little cost. 

The  surprise and delight of TERRACE DAILY ONLINE is (a) their fearless truth-telling, and (b) their publication of news which rarely shows up in Southern BC. For example, that god-awful keynote address Gordo made recently  to the Independent Power Producers. Gordo explained his newest vision of letting these corporations cut up BC&#039;s sacred forests into firewood and burning it, for the purpose of making electricity which he would then force BC Hydro to buy ... and Gordo calls this &quot;GREEN ENERGY&quot;. 

TERRACE DAILY ONLINE had the news of Eurocan&#039;s shutdown before anyone else; also the possibility of Kemano becoming only a power producer ... and don&#039;t you smell a big back-story there, Harv? where the Province of BC gave up lakes and rivers and forests to provide Alcan with the power to process aluminum? And now, Gordo waves his magic wand, and Rio Tinto Alcan can simply turn its back on the people of BC, and simply sell that electricity ... shut down the smelter ... and decimate the town of Kitimat  primarily made up of Alcan workers.  TERRACE DAILY ONLINE gladly shared those reports (with credit), and 

I was able to share some news which they hadn&#039;t seen before, either. So a CITIZENS&#039; ONLINE NETWORK might have a very good effect on the province, I think. 

Would you consider writing a column on your views about this?

(Response: No, we didn&#039;t talk much about blogging ... just about their take on mine and how the blogosphere is growiing.  Did much more reminisicing about work and the current financial crisis facing Global. As for writing a column elsewhere... I&#039;m flattered ... bit I am retired, right! Can hardly keep up with writing for my own blog and handling responses. But again, I&#039;m flattered.  :)  h.o.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harvey:</p>
<p>Among so many former colleagues at the Cable retirement party, did you get a sense of what they think of other bloggers (besides an appreciation for your blog, I mean)?  I&#8217;d be interested to know their professional assessment of the work many of us put into blogging.  Or are they all &#8220;Morley Saffers&#8221;? </p>
<p>Also: after encountering a very informative little news service &#8230; TERRACE DAILY ONLINE &#8230; </p>
<p>I thought it suggested a way of the future. I could imagine many small, independent news-blogs forming a network  to provide a very lively daily look at provincial affairs, at very little cost. </p>
<p>The  surprise and delight of TERRACE DAILY ONLINE is (a) their fearless truth-telling, and (b) their publication of news which rarely shows up in Southern BC. For example, that god-awful keynote address Gordo made recently  to the Independent Power Producers. Gordo explained his newest vision of letting these corporations cut up BC&#8217;s sacred forests into firewood and burning it, for the purpose of making electricity which he would then force BC Hydro to buy &#8230; and Gordo calls this &#8220;GREEN ENERGY&#8221;. </p>
<p>TERRACE DAILY ONLINE had the news of Eurocan&#8217;s shutdown before anyone else; also the possibility of Kemano becoming only a power producer &#8230; and don&#8217;t you smell a big back-story there, Harv? where the Province of BC gave up lakes and rivers and forests to provide Alcan with the power to process aluminum? And now, Gordo waves his magic wand, and Rio Tinto Alcan can simply turn its back on the people of BC, and simply sell that electricity &#8230; shut down the smelter &#8230; and decimate the town of Kitimat  primarily made up of Alcan workers.  TERRACE DAILY ONLINE gladly shared those reports (with credit), and </p>
<p>I was able to share some news which they hadn&#8217;t seen before, either. So a CITIZENS&#8217; ONLINE NETWORK might have a very good effect on the province, I think. </p>
<p>Would you consider writing a column on your views about this?</p>
<p>(Response: No, we didn&#8217;t talk much about blogging &#8230; just about their take on mine and how the blogosphere is growiing.  Did much more reminisicing about work and the current financial crisis facing Global. As for writing a column elsewhere&#8230; I&#8217;m flattered &#8230; bit I am retired, right! Can hardly keep up with writing for my own blog and handling responses. But again, I&#8217;m flattered.  <img src='http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   h.o.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harvey
Congratulations on your ongoing efforts - and particularly your effort to alert viewers to the weaknesses of what they  are being served at supper time.
Perhaps, though, there are additional questions to be asked.   Here are some of mine:
1. regardless of ratings, are present revenues sufficient to fund a restoration of journalistic muscle to Canada&#039;s  television and newspapers?    (There seems to be a lot of house ads on all the outlets)
2. how are young people getting jobs without an appreciation or a desire to provide relevant, interesting and compelling stories to the audience?  (what schools enroll and graduate young people who can&#039;t appreciate that the value of their career will turn on their skills as reporters?)
3. In the current demand by networks for carriage fees from cable companies are there provisions that ensure the revenues will reach local news organizations?  Will there be incentives to encourage network owners to foster real journalism?
As I said,  it is important and valuable for people to recognize the decline in quality that is clear in much of the media world.  But I don&#039;t think greed or conspiracies play quite as large a role as many seem to believe.
The economic model that funded the &#039;Golden age&#039; (damn, it was fun!) has changed.     We&#039;re in a transition and the future course is not yet clear.
Personally, I&#039;ve had a lot of time in recent years to reflect on the problem of ensuring that there is enough revenue reaching journalists to fund high quality efforts.   I believe there are several steps that could easily be taken that would enable  responsible corporations and/or networks to prosper through quality journalism.     The changes would be no harder to embrace than the addition of television to the print world,  the switch from film to video,  access to microwaves and satellites and the other less conspicuous changes that our craft has watched, accepted and then worked with happily.
If someone asks, I&#039;ll let you know.      
all the best
Cameron

(Response: Great questions ..from the man who, along with Keith Bradbury, turned BCTV into the powerhouse it once way ..and who hired me away from The Vancouver Sun. Wish I had the answers .. except to say that be looking at what/who goes to air, I don&#039;t think they care as much about such things anymore.   h.o.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harvey<br />
Congratulations on your ongoing efforts &#8211; and particularly your effort to alert viewers to the weaknesses of what they  are being served at supper time.<br />
Perhaps, though, there are additional questions to be asked.   Here are some of mine:<br />
1. regardless of ratings, are present revenues sufficient to fund a restoration of journalistic muscle to Canada&#8217;s  television and newspapers?    (There seems to be a lot of house ads on all the outlets)<br />
2. how are young people getting jobs without an appreciation or a desire to provide relevant, interesting and compelling stories to the audience?  (what schools enroll and graduate young people who can&#8217;t appreciate that the value of their career will turn on their skills as reporters?)<br />
3. In the current demand by networks for carriage fees from cable companies are there provisions that ensure the revenues will reach local news organizations?  Will there be incentives to encourage network owners to foster real journalism?<br />
As I said,  it is important and valuable for people to recognize the decline in quality that is clear in much of the media world.  But I don&#8217;t think greed or conspiracies play quite as large a role as many seem to believe.<br />
The economic model that funded the &#8216;Golden age&#8217; (damn, it was fun!) has changed.     We&#8217;re in a transition and the future course is not yet clear.<br />
Personally, I&#8217;ve had a lot of time in recent years to reflect on the problem of ensuring that there is enough revenue reaching journalists to fund high quality efforts.   I believe there are several steps that could easily be taken that would enable  responsible corporations and/or networks to prosper through quality journalism.     The changes would be no harder to embrace than the addition of television to the print world,  the switch from film to video,  access to microwaves and satellites and the other less conspicuous changes that our craft has watched, accepted and then worked with happily.<br />
If someone asks, I&#8217;ll let you know.<br />
all the best<br />
Cameron</p>
<p>(Response: Great questions ..from the man who, along with Keith Bradbury, turned BCTV into the powerhouse it once way ..and who hired me away from The Vancouver Sun. Wish I had the answers .. except to say that be looking at what/who goes to air, I don&#8217;t think they care as much about such things anymore.   h.o.)</p>
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		<title>By: A. G. Tsakumis</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. G. Tsakumis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henri:

Mais oui!  I can state this from personal experience since I used to work for her...but that&#039;s as far as I&#039;ll go, for now.

And she&#039;s not that old, actually, just about as useful (and open-minded) as two tits on a bull.

MSM elites don;t like me because I call it the way it is.  I&#039;m never going to win any Mr. Handsome Awards and I don&#039;t suffer fools--period.   The complacent MSM in this town are more interested in doing &#039;Entertainment Tonight&#039; spots and pretending they have an angle that will resonate.

It used to be that the only godamned angle that matter was something called the truth.

But, apparently, that doesn&#039;t sell advertising.  

Bollocks!  I have the most popular column in the city on Thursdays, (in 24 Hours...h.o.) and advertisers flock to get on the same page as my scribblings.  

You have to take a chance and build a following.  People like the gal I referred to above, are interested in providing nothing more than what&#039;s required to write two dozen paycheques bi-monthly.

Imagine if they really cared about the public.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henri:</p>
<p>Mais oui!  I can state this from personal experience since I used to work for her&#8230;but that&#8217;s as far as I&#8217;ll go, for now.</p>
<p>And she&#8217;s not that old, actually, just about as useful (and open-minded) as two tits on a bull.</p>
<p>MSM elites don;t like me because I call it the way it is.  I&#8217;m never going to win any Mr. Handsome Awards and I don&#8217;t suffer fools&#8211;period.   The complacent MSM in this town are more interested in doing &#8216;Entertainment Tonight&#8217; spots and pretending they have an angle that will resonate.</p>
<p>It used to be that the only godamned angle that matter was something called the truth.</p>
<p>But, apparently, that doesn&#8217;t sell advertising.  </p>
<p>Bollocks!  I have the most popular column in the city on Thursdays, (in 24 Hours&#8230;h.o.) and advertisers flock to get on the same page as my scribblings.  </p>
<p>You have to take a chance and build a following.  People like the gal I referred to above, are interested in providing nothing more than what&#8217;s required to write two dozen paycheques bi-monthly.</p>
<p>Imagine if they really cared about the public&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Henri Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henri Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A. G. Tsakumis said // Oct 4, 2009 at 10:18 am 
 Other than one producer that passed her best-before date long ago
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Good line , but ouch that has to smart .
 No finer a compliment then be told, your over the hill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A. G. Tsakumis said // Oct 4, 2009 at 10:18 am<br />
 Other than one producer that passed her best-before date long ago<br />
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Good line , but ouch that has to smart .<br />
 No finer a compliment then be told, your over the hill.</p>
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		<title>By: A Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 22:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good old Eric... I&#039;m sure it was a fun party! He coached me in soccer one year and was a tough son of a gun -- I think he thought we were training for rugby...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good old Eric&#8230; I&#8217;m sure it was a fun party! He coached me in soccer one year and was a tough son of a gun &#8212; I think he thought we were training for rugby&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: seth</title>
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		<dc:creator>seth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Harvey why don&#039;t you do a 5 minute &quot;thats the way I see it thing&quot; on the new TV station in Victoria.

Even the CBC  &quot;journalists&quot;  are now so afraid of losing their jobs that they violate all journalistic ethics to enable Harpo&#039;s gang of global warming deniers.

www.themarknews.com/articles/516-fanning-the-flames

(Response: No one has offered.  Plus I&#039;m retired (LOL!) and take off esp in the winter/spring for weeks at a time so thev regularity would not be there, which would hurt the effrot.) And I have my blog to get ideas out ..and here, get others involved in the discussion as well ..often teaching me things i did not know..  h.o.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Harvey why don&#8217;t you do a 5 minute &#8220;thats the way I see it thing&#8221; on the new TV station in Victoria.</p>
<p>Even the CBC  &#8220;journalists&#8221;  are now so afraid of losing their jobs that they violate all journalistic ethics to enable Harpo&#8217;s gang of global warming deniers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.themarknews.com/articles/516-fanning-the-flames" rel="nofollow">http://www.themarknews.com/articles/516-fanning-the-flames</a></p>
<p>(Response: No one has offered.  Plus I&#8217;m retired (LOL!) and take off esp in the winter/spring for weeks at a time so thev regularity would not be there, which would hurt the effrot.) And I have my blog to get ideas out ..and here, get others involved in the discussion as well ..often teaching me things i did not know..  h.o.)</p>
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