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Trudeau Attacks CANADA at UN

September 25th, 2017 · 29 Comments

It was a bizarre “performance” … even for a Prime Minister with a penchant for show-biz-style grandstanding, peripatetic photo bombing and, of course, scads of selfies.

There was Canada’s LEADER,  Justin Trudeau, standing before a world  forum … trying to draw the spot light to himself again … by doing something no other leader … Canadian or foreign has ever done at the UN …. attacking his OWN country!

It was a vain, embarrassing spectacle … that didn’t work.

Trudeau’s performance, to a more than half empty assembly hall,  drew little attention abroad … and if it was meant to show Canada has the IDEAS, SOLUTIONS or LEADERSHIP credentials worthy of a seat on the UN Security Council … it failed miserably.

Trudeau didn’t even mention the worst crises and conflicts facing the world and the UN …. let alone propose ANY meaningful Canadian PROPOSALS to even assist, let alone solve them:  the 400,000 Rohingya from Myanmar suffering in the muddy fields of Bangladesh;  the millions of refugees/migrants plaguing Europe/Mid East/Africa … and the West; any recommendations on how the hate/conflicts/corruption that created their misery could/should be dealt with; how the growing gap, increasing hostility between Russia and the West could be reversed; how the wars in Syria/Afghanistan/Ukraine/Sudan/Middle East/North Korea  could/should be mitigated by the UN.

Standing in front of the world … Canada offered nothing!  The Prime Minister’s spin doctors say Canada put forward ideas in “side” meetings.  Not good enough!  Second rate!

Our Prime Minister could have been a STATESMAN …. following in the well-respected and effective leader’s footsteps of Canada’s Lester Pearson … laying out REAL ideas, REAL proposals, REAL offers to mediate and a REAL commitment from Canada to participate in solutions that would have captured the attention of many nations …and the UN’s Security Council.

Instead, Canada’s leader used almost ALL of his time before the World body attacking his own country: denouncing its treatment of indigenous people; enunciating the negative aspects of our colonial history; depicting our internal conflicts and human rights challenges. To what purpose???

As if such confessions and a pledge to seek solutions will have ANY effect on the laws/customs/civil and human rights of other UN members … like Saudi Arabia, Russia , Syria, China, Venezuela, Yemen,  Iran North Korea etc.

Maybe our Prime Minister believes the way to a temporary and effectively powerless Security Council seat is to show Canada has NO real principled ideas, solutions or proposals to push of its own  … so we could easily be swayed, cajoled and convinced to vote with and by ANY/ALL permanent Council members.

Just give me a Security Council seat … PLEASE!!!!

If any major world leaders or nations were impressed by his “stand up” act at the UN … they have not said so.

But then again, when it comes to Trudeau and the UN … it’s all about ego …  NOT about repairing the wold.

Harv Oberfeld

Tags: International · National

29 responses so far ↓

  • 1 r // Sep 25, 2017 at 8:08 am

    How about sending a supply ship to carribean relief or DART water system to Puerto Rico.A big selfie moment?Working at Trudeau foundation in 19?

  • 2 skidder // Sep 25, 2017 at 9:03 am

    No surprise.. Trudeau has always reminded me of the fairy tale, “The Emperors New Clothes”, especially when he speaks off script…. it’s always about him, and this country deserves better! I was ashamed of him, as I listened to him criticise Canada at the UN.

    (Response: It was a LOST opportunity to show Canada has ideas and proposals to make things better at the UN itself and for UN conflicts/problems. Hmmm! Maybe Canada under Trudeau has no great ideas. h.o)

  • 3 Gene The Bean // Sep 25, 2017 at 9:48 am

    Harvey – What’s with the headlines lately!
    Attention grabbers on steroids. What did a headline ever do to you?

    Agree with your post, an opportunity wasted but I’m not going to sweat about it due to the fact I have no respect for the UN. As you mentioned, hardly anyone was there, no real coverage or follow up.

    I expect our leaders to ‘take advantage’ when on the world stage. He didn’t. Too bad. Missed opportunity. Turn the page.

    (Response: When someone launches a totally one-sided denunciation of a country’s record in a number of areas … that’s an ATTACK to me. I don’t disagree that Canada has an imperfect history in several areas, but if we are ever to really solve them, our Prime Minister should keep it real: looking at self-responsibility today as well as historical failings; promote solutions that BOTH sides can implement to improve things; and NOT just attack our country at a world forum as part of a longer-term ego-boosting manoeuvre. h.o.).

  • 4 Gary.T. // Sep 25, 2017 at 10:01 am

    I’m afraid that Trudeau is becoming a huge disappointment. Unfortunately, there are no viable alternatives to him yet for the next election.

    (Response; As I wrote this blog piece, I thought about whether I had made a mistake in supporting “change” and Trudeau in the past election: I would still have made the same choice ..recalling how dictatorial and frankly out of touch Harper/Tories has become. And so far, despite Trudeau’s weaknesses, I don’t see Scheer as being much of an alternative. h.o)

  • 5 Diverdarren // Sep 25, 2017 at 10:19 am

    Harvey, lets face it, Canada’s presence on the world stage is mainly inconsequential. It’s only our proximity to the United States and historical ties to the UK that give us much of a global relevance.

    Trudeau’s speech to the UN Gen Ass. was for us here at home. I’m sure that the delegates from China or Brazil care as much about the fact that we’ll up spending on natives and adopt some report on reconciliation as the care about the latest NHL scores.

    But, here at home the current government is busy with self flagellation and covering our sack-clothes with ashes over the natives. Cool, whatever makes the liberal’s happy.

    There are a few inconvenient truths about the native file. Natives account for 1.4million Canadians, about 4.5% of the population.

    Spending in 2012 was “$8.5-billion, with 84% of the money going directly to aboriginals, First Nations governments and programs for natives.” National Post, May 2013. And, we all know the Trudeau has earmarked “new federal investments targeting Indigenous peoples and communities to $14 billion by 2021-2022″ APTN News, March 2017.

    That’s a lot of money going out the door. Unfortunately, The Auditor General can’t do much in the way of accounting for it.

    It’s Trudeau’s commitment to fulfill the recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Report. (something i’d encourage everyone to read) and his commitment to the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People that is most concerning. I don’t think Canadians would be interested in abrogating as much political sovereignty, and economic decision making to natives as would be required under the adoption of these reports.

    Canada would be ceding too much authority to a relatively small group of people.

    To put the native population(1.4M) into perspective. The T&R Report took 7years to complete. At an intake of 250,000 immigrants to Canada per year, we took on 1.7 million immigrants in that 7years alone.

    There is no doubt that the native file needs to be attended to. But, this country has more pressing problems than just natives. Anyway you slice it, Trudeau taking his domestic agenda to the world stage is about as useful as a toboggan in August. The world does’t care how we reconcile with the indigenous people.

    (Response: It need not be that way. Look at the record and the respect for Canada worldwide under Lester Pearson. He won the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE for Canada’s UN contributions … at a time when Canada was much weaker economically, culturally and in terms of know-how than it is now. Read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_B._Pearson Somewhere since then, we have lost our international backbone, weakened our commitment, so instead of contributing really good ideas/proposals our PM attacks his own country’s record when given a chance to address the world …or at least, its minor diplomatic note-taking functionaries. Very sad…and disappointing. h.o)

  • 6 Hawgwash // Sep 25, 2017 at 10:39 am

    Canada is irrelevant.

    Not because of Trudeau.

    When the Richmond Council, for the second time in as many years, passes a motion to officially “encourage” 50% English on business signs and the populous does not look up from scrolling Facebook, we have a problem.

    Expand that nation-wide and we have a culture.

    Don’t blame the Little Potato.

  • 7 RIsaak // Sep 25, 2017 at 10:45 am

    While PM Trudashian waxed at the UN about aboriginal rights, his DFO henchmen were threatening FN people on open net pen, foreign owned salmon farms. These salmon farms are ruining wild stocks and the jobs they create are a pittance compared to the legacy employment we used to see in wild fish catching & processing.

    His missing FN inquiry is lost in a seemingly foggy process which is not satisfying to anyone except the employees of the bureaucracy.

    How many wells could have been drilled on FN property with the money wasted on the inquiry? How many homes could have been built instead of squandering it on endless pontification?

    The silly notion that Trudeau 2.0′s legacy can be tied to the UN is as delusional as it is factually bankrupt when his actions are factored in.

  • 8 SG // Sep 25, 2017 at 12:42 pm

    All Justin Trudeau has going for him is his last name, he certainly didn’t inherit his dads intellect. Having said that, I certainly didn’t see eye to eye on some of what PET stood for, however it would be foolish to deny PET’s intelligence.

    Back to young JT, I watched him announce to the UN about how to First Nations have been totally disrespected and so hard done by etc, and how now is the time for reconciliation. How ironic….this is the same JT that’s disappointed the majority of Indian bands in BC by rubber stamping both site C (which I don’t support) and the Kinder Morgan expansion (which I do support)….JT has mastered the art of speaking with a forked tongue.

    (Response: He certainly is NOT PET … either intellectually or arrogance. ONE of those will likely develop the longer he is in office. h.o.)

  • 9 13 // Sep 25, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    Some good comes from Justin buffoonery. When the drama teacher stands on any stage and delivers pablum he is one step close to an election defeat. Seems the only way jt can lose is by self destruction. He has no capable opposition

  • 10 DBW // Sep 25, 2017 at 2:39 pm

    When I read your headline, I just had to go listen to the speech which I did for about 20 minutes while eating lunch.

    Conclusion, I certainly didn’t interpret this as an attack on Canada.

    I am not going to say it was the greatest speech ever made. And maybe this wasn’t the best venue. (Would it have been an attack if he made the same speech in Canada?)

    Maybe he was talking to world leaders and if so he likely didn’t get too many people listening or remembering. The version I watched sometimes panned the half (at best) filled auditorium with people milling about or leaving while others were on phones, some even showing their neighbours something “interesting” on the phone. (Note to BMCQ, it’s not just the kids with an over fascination with technology.)

    But I am guessing he was using this opportunity to speak to the Canadian people, especially our First Nations.

    The Truth and Reconciliation Commission is only two years old and this was a chance on a world stage for Trudeau to address the past and pledge to do something for the future. Will he actually accomplish anything is up for debate.

    So here are my questions:

    Did he say anything historically incorrect about the treatment of our First Nations as one sided as you claim him to be?

    Did he not say that Canada was addressing these issues and tied some of the solutions to United Nations policy?

    Was he not hinting that other countries can do the same as Canada on domestic issues facing their own countries?

    Sure he could have addressed other problems in the world. Fair comment. But in reality, all we would be doing is patting ourselves on the back for demanding other’s change their ways.

    I am not trying to quibble with you Harvey. Not the greatest speech. I stopped listening when I stopped eating. Maybe not the best venue. Perhaps not the best topic for that venue. Fair enough. But we still need to be addressing how we move forward on reconciliation with our past.

    If that was Trudeau’s intent than I am okay with the speech. If he was just grandstanding – well – totally different issue.

  • 11 D. M. Johnston // Sep 25, 2017 at 2:55 pm

    Yawn, Trudeau the Younger is a major disappointment, but most Canadian politicians are these days.

    But as, Mair’s axiom #1 states “You do not have to be a 10 in politics to succeed, rather you may merely be a 3, if everyone else is 1.”

    Trudeau rates as a disappointing 3, with the opposition being -1.

  • 12 BMCQ // Sep 25, 2017 at 3:42 pm

    Great Analysis on this and really well written Harvey!

    I agree with almost everything you point out on this one!

    Great Headlines lately, even if I do not agree with all of your points on any given Topic you have created great interest and there have been some wonderful exchanges.

    PM Justin is quite simply an Empty Suit, a Poser, and a “Legend only in his Own House”!

    There is not a week that goes by that I am embarrassed for him and Canada.

    The strangest part of the “Love of Justin” for me is the fact that Media Types in The EU, the U.K., the U.S., and Canada believe he is some sort of Messiah! I just do not get it!

    Of course no Leader or Party is perfect but Taking into account so many things he has mismanaged in such a short time like the current and coming Tsunami of Migrants, Income and Corporate Tax Increases, over $60 Billion in upcoming Deficits, changing Mandatory Minimums and making it easier for violent Murderers and Sex Offenders to avoid Prison, and taking away very reasonable Legislation that made First Nations Accointable to the People of those First Nations and so many more I wonder why Former PM Harper is/was so Vilified!

    DBW – 8

    I doubt very much that UN Members were looking at stories on the Kardashians or Prince Harry, I hope they were looking at stories on Hurricanes or Earthquakes but then again being the UN they may have been looking at that evenings Dinner Menu wondering which type of Caviar and Champagne might be on offer.

    FYI – I have many pieces of Advanced CNC Equipment and other Advanced Technologies in my Business, we have NO Social Media.

    There is a difference.

    (Response: I’m not sure why Canada would even want a Security Council seat: ALL control and ALL power lies with the five permanent members that have veto powers. Can anyone ever remember anything said or proposed by any of the temporary members in this century??? It’s just a very costly ego trip … that requires those who desire it to abandon any real democratic principles, ethics and values and to bow and scrape to many, many almost useless General Assembly countries that don’t possess even the most rudimentary human rights, honest economic setups or real interest in achieving peace in their own regions …let alone the worlds. h.o.)

  • 13 r // Sep 25, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    i dont understand little potato comment.
    but i do understand small fry.

  • 14 Hawgwash // Sep 25, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    r @ 13
    https://globalnews.ca/video/2923677/justin-trudeau-earns-nickname-little-potato-during-trip-to-china

  • 15 Jay Jones // Sep 25, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    Has the economy improved under his leadership?
    Doesn’t look like it to me.

    Are the streets safer under his leadership?
    Doesn’t look like it to me.

    Has homelessness decreased under his leadership?
    Doesn’t look like it to me.

    Has political leadership across the land improved under his leadership?
    Doesn’t look like it to me.

    Those in glass houses…

    (Response: You raise a GREAT topic for the working press (I’m retired!): a full statistical analysis of how Canada is doing since Trudeau/Libs took over…. beyond all the photo ops and glib rhetoric. Employment/Unemployment; Average incomes; Poverty rates; Average taxes paid; Cost of operating federal government and size of bureaucracy; Health care total spending, average waitlists across the country, life expectancies; Crime rates … etc. Would make for a fascinating study/comparison with Harper. h.o)

  • 16 BMCQ // Sep 26, 2017 at 5:51 am

    Jay – 15

    Of course those are very good and legitimate questions!

    But can we in fact count on ANY Media Outlet in the whole of Canada from Coast to Coast to Coast to actually provide the answers to those questions?

    My first guess is probably “NO”!

    All Governments have their Warts but each time a Government is changed in the West regardless of Country the Government Voted out is not just sent to the “Penalty Box/Purgatory” for two weeks, a month or so to learn a lesson.

    That change is usually for about 4 years and in the meantime a Politically Correct, , Preening, Prancing, Disengaged, and Short Circuited Pretend Prime Minister like Justin a lot of damage can take place.

    We are not very far into that Governments Mandate and we have already seen some drastic changes to our Democracy.

    Unfortunately for all of us and generations yet to come many of those changes as I have pointed out in my Post 12 will change the fact of Canada forever.

    I expect nothing less than a Disaster!

  • 17 DBW // Sep 26, 2017 at 10:06 am

    Since we are slightly moving away from Trudeau’s speech (guess it really was boring), I did a quick google search.

    Seems like the Canadian economy is doing well.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/3709379/canada-gdp-q2-2017/

    Although the Fraser Institute does warn us that storm clouds loom (is that a nice way of saying disaster?)

    http://business.financialpost.com/opinion/economic-storm-clouds-loom-behind-canadas-upbeat-growth-reports-and-rate-hikes

    Even the unemployment numbers are looking good.

    https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/unemployment-rate

    Of course that means nothing because a disaster is likely looming there as well.

    I definitely have to rethink my future outlook.

    The best way for democracy to work is to give Conservative led parties a two week time out in the penalty box whenever they have been naughty and not allow anybody else – ever – to take the reins of power.

    Works for me. Who wants a disaster?

  • 18 BMCQ // Sep 26, 2017 at 11:20 am

    DBW – 17

    There are many factors that are important to having a successful Economy.

    Confidence in the Democracy is the MOST Important.

    Then of course it might help to have a PM that is not spending the biggest part of his day Preening, Pozing, Photo Bombing, and criticizing his own Democracy for the World to see at the UN.

    Fortunately for Canada we have had many good Governments/Administrations over the past many years and our reputation is still quite good.
    Boy what I would give to have Paul Martin or Harper back in Ottawa!

    Canada compared to most other Countries is considered a Safe and Stable Country for Investment. I believe the Chinese would testify to that fact.

    Canada and a few others almost look good by default because when you see the EU virtually Collapsing right in front of our eyes we do look good.

    Imagine Obama, Blair, Cameron, Juncker, Lofven, Sarkozy, Hollande, Marcron, and the rest managing to destroy a whole Continent of Countries that were once the envy of the World in less than One Generation!

    Catastrophic at Best!!

    People and Investors have been coming to Canada from all corners of the World for reasons of Safety and Stability.

    No matter how much money one has in China it is still a “HOLE” and they want to get their Money and Families out to Safe Haven and a Secure Environment and Countries like Australia, Canada, the U.S., and the rest are very attractive.

    The Tax Increases both Personal and Corporate sends Alarm Bells off but two other very serious problems Canada and Canadians face under PM Justin is Monster Deficits, and the Huge Migration Problem.

    Considering where Oil and Gas have been the past two years the Canadian Economy is outperforming forecast and that is obviously a very positive thing.

    We are not perfect but compared to most other places Canada still looks very good.

    I believe that says a lot more about Canadians from all backgrounds than it does about our current Leadership.

    I sincerely believe that we could very soon face some very serious challenges that will prove too much for PM Justin.

    By the time Media actually begin to report about those troubles it will be far too late.

    I like your idea about bringing the conservative Party back after a short break, makes a lot of sense.

    Never mind, PM Justin will “Roll up His Sleeves”, get down to work and everything will be just fine in Mudville!

    Even though he did his best to Discredit and Slam the Country he is supposed to be Leading.

  • 19 Gene The Bean // Sep 26, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    This is too funny – we start out talking about a Trudeau speech and we now have doom and gloom predictions, the fear any change, jobs and the economy is threatened, democracy under attack ….. All tried and true conservative BS bloviations.

    What a sad life those people lead. Always afraid, wanting the future to look just like the past, selfish and morally bankrupt. Empty life.

    Conservatives do not have ‘the right’ to govern as some of you think. Conservatives have ruined this province and pretty much everywhere else they have been able to spew their selfishness and hate for extended periods of time.

    They simplistically preach their hate to the inept and uneducated and those looking to get ahead by pushing others down.

    Wonder what percentage of those torch bearing, jew hating, neo-nazis in Charlottesville were conservatives. All of them? You bet.

    The playing field has now been leveled.

    You’re welcome.

    (Response: Yes…kind of getting off topic. But I figure if the PM can go totally off topic at the UN and talk domestic failings/challenges/causes …so can those on here. :) Plus, feeling generous…since going travelling again soon! :) h.o)

  • 20 daniel // Sep 26, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    What an interesting topic Harvey. Thanks.
    I also cannot believe the excellent responses I have read so far here. Well done everyone.
    I am a little embarrassed to state that I too voted liberal in the last federal election just to get rid of Harper. Holy crap, what a mistake.
    I was fortunate enough to take a small vacation to Europe in August. A guided tour which included some Americans. One gentleman, now a retired lobbyist but still working in Washington DC asked me what I thought of our prime minister. I responded “just fluff”. I really hated saying this but that is exactly what I now see, almost on a daily basis. He seems more interested in showing the world what type of socks he is wearing than well you know, maybe governing our country correctly so that all Canadians can have better lives.
    When he shows up on my TV I either change the channel immediately or mute it because I am so tired of hearing him say uh over and over again. Good lord. I would like to throw my television set over my 14th floor balcony but it might hurt someone. Plus I’d have to purchase a new one and or I would get sued, which I really can’t afford right now.

    (Response: I’m not ready …yet …to say voting for Trudeau was a mistake: I DO remember how disappointing, opaque and arrogant Harper/team had become …not only refusing to answer questions (even on the campaign trail!!) and even forbidding public servants from giving interviews, releasing information that BELONGS to the public. But Trudeau does seem quite shallow and even very gullible in too many respects. It will certainly be an interesting year ahead! h.o)

  • 21 DBW // Sep 26, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    Keeping on topic.

    Agree with him or not, PM Justin said something along the line of “we have a sorry history with our First Nations people. Even today, life on reserves is not adequate. It’s not something we are proud of. We are working on making improvements.”

    This according to some is an ATTACK on our country and according to BMCQ PM Justin “did his best to Discredit and Slam the Country he is supposed to be Leading.”

    However, President Donald who BMCQ never lists as one of the architects of the demise of western civilization said this at his inauguration

    But for too many of our citizens, a different reality exists. Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities, rusted out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation, an education system flush with cash but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of all knowledge. And the crime, and the gangs, and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. This American carnage stops right here and stops right now.

    This is the apocalyptic vision that President Donald has of HIS country, the one that he leads.
    But – I guess – he’s just telling it like it is.

    This is some people’s apocalyptic vision of the future under the likes of PM Tony and PM David (not PM Elizabeth though) and all the rest of the EU leaders whether centre left like PM Stefan, centrist like President Emmanuel, and centre right like Chancellor Angela.

    I didn’t like the policies of PM Steven and Premier Christy. I prefer the policies of PM Trudeau and Premier Horgan. I think President Obama was much better than President Donald will ever be. People can think otherwise. But regardless of party in power I am not going to gnash my teeth and rend my garments awaiting the four horsemen. (Although President Donald is making me a wee bit nervous.)

  • 22 DonGar // Sep 27, 2017 at 7:53 am

    Harvey @ 20 you talk about how arrogant Harper had become and @ 15 you talk about economic comparison

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/09/27/liberal-government-gets-f-on-access-to-information-worse-record-than-harper-study_a_23224633/?utm_hp_ref=ca-homepage

    And another new report is showing middle class are paying more tax under liberals.

    http://business.financialpost.com/personal-finance/liberal-changes-have-only-led-to-higher-taxes-for-the-middle-class-despite-claims-otherwise-report

    (Response: As readers can tell from my blog…I’m not really impressed with Trudeau as yet…but still believe change was a good thing and the federal NDP under Mulcair were not a real alternative for many voters. I also think it’s still too early to make an overall assessment re Trudeau/Liberals in comparison with Harper/Tories: think we still need to closely watch NAFTA, economic growth over the next year, international performance, etc. As for the study you link to…I saw that… found it quite interesting: even though done by Fraser Institute… fairly right wing in my view…. I fit right in to their findings! May even blog on their study next week, depending on what else catches my eye.. h.o)

  • 23 Gene The Bean // Sep 27, 2017 at 9:53 am

    Perusing the internet this morning I have found that “people” are becoming “outraged” at the thought and/or actuality of having to pay ‘more taxes’ under the Trudeau Liberals.

    Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING (hydro, food, gas, booze, houses, insurance, etc etc) has gone up. Everything has increased. Name something that hasn’t….

    Yet, many (most?) don’t think taxes should go up too? Huh? How does that work?

    Conservative bloviations about having “low” tax rates and the false economy of “trickle down economics” have somehow started to affect normal people now.

    Taxes should go up. Way up for some folks and loopholes to avoid paying tax should be shut down. Big business should stop receiving the ‘corporate welfare’ that conservatives love to provide.

    How can any level of government provide anywhere close to the same level of service (or any services…) without tax increases?

    I don’t like it either but lets KEEP IT REAL.

    I haven’t read any of Barry’s (BMCQ) comments in a long time ( I am retired but that doesn’t mean I have hours to spare…) but I think the only thing he ever bleated that I agreed with was that all levels of government should be more fiscally responsible.

    Modest tax increases, eliminating loopholes for the wealthy (who have gotten away with it for far too long), business (finally) paying their fair share and finding some operational efficiencies in government will put us in a great economic position.

    Just trying to Keep it Real folks ……

  • 24 BMCQ // Sep 27, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    DBW – 21

    If get into defending DJT who in fact I agree with much of the time I will be deemed off topic quicker than the Bean could say B.C. Liberals or Federal Conservatives are Nazi’s, Morally Bankrupt, and have Cloven Hooves!!

    Would very much like to discuss the difference between Trump and Obama if Harvey decides to do a comparison and analysis between the two sometime next year during the Mid Terms.

    I do however agree with most of the Trump points about what has happened to the U.S..

    PM Justin was talking about something totally different during his UN Performance and the effort to Pander to the Liberal Elites at the UN was simply an effort to appear Statesman like at the expense of Canadians Past and Present.

    Bean – 23

    I hesitate to ask the obvious question but please explain to me how you appear to know everything about ALL of my Posts yet you tell us you do not read them?

    I am fully on record stating that I can in fact endorse modest Tax increases both Income and Personal but we must first get Government in order and demand more accountability at ALL Three Levels. I do not care WHO is in Power!

    In fact PM Justin could have ended his UN Speech by informing the World that Canada would soon be adopting a Flat Rate Tax System doing away with most Deductions and taking away as many Loopholes as possible and I would have applauded.

    PM Justin needs to stop Pandering to World Elite Leaders like Merkel, Khan, Hollande, Juncker, the Pope, The UN, and the rest and get control of Canadian Law Makers/Parliamentarians and Engineer some very serious Solutions to our Economy, the CAD which they are now attempting to talk down after a disastrous Summer period, begin his promised Infrastructure Programs right across the Country, demand more Accountability through the Government Oversight Program, create a worth while and Accountable Auditor Generals Report on Financing and Reporting of First nations, and they finally need to put someone in charge of Indian Affairs that gets control of FN Waste, Education, Clean Water, and Culture changes that are required while at the same time making First nations Leadership Accountable and Responsible for the Guardianship of FN Children.

    That would have been a much more worth while UN Speech, and it would have been Statesman like and Constructive.

    Not just pandering to the UN Elites, most of whom were too busy to listen because they were discussing what kind of Caviar and Champagne they would be enjoying that evening.

    It is disappointing that I will not know if you agree or disagree with any of what I have said because as you have so importantly pointed out you will not read this post.

    Oh and BTW, it will not be all that long before long most here, even Harvey admits the Vote for Mr. Empty Suit may not have been such a good idea after all.

    By then it will unfortunately be too late.

    Without Control of Migration/Immigration and without Control of Defined Borders YOU have NO Country.

    I simply ask any of you to look to the EU if you disagree with that Statement.

    Now that would have been a Great Line for PM Justin during his UN Address!!

    That would have attracted some Attention!!

  • 25 e.a.f. // Sep 27, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    agree with DBW at #10

    don’t see this as an attack on Canada, but rather informing people we have a problem which we are working on and need to do more work. These sort of comments may in fact gain traction with other countries which have internal problems.

    Some may not have liked the speech, but for others it was a brave one, in which he acknowledged the problems we have in Canada. He did not hold Canada up as perfect and that alone may have garnered him some votes. anyhow most of the work to get seats on anything is done in the back rooms and at embassy soirees. We in B.C. ought to know that at least, back rooms and soirees.

  • 26 Hawgwash // Sep 27, 2017 at 1:20 pm

    A Globe article points out that FOI has gotten worse under Trudeau and this is an “ATTACK” should be of more concern than a lame speech at a lame UN.

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadas-access-to-information-system-has-worsened-under-trudeau-government-report/article36407309/

    The 11 people who comment here will understand that threat but it is the seriously dumbed down culture I mentioned earlier that should be the real cause for concern.

  • 27 BMCQ // Sep 27, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    Something that PM Justin did not elaborate on in his Pandering to the Elite at the UN.
    http://business.financialpost.com/opinion/how-much-of-a-fair-share-do-canadas-top-earners-pay-you-might-be-surprised

    Of course PM Justin did not disclose any of this during his UN Speech.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/08/11/justin-trudeau-first-nations-financial-transparency_n_5668640.html

    And just how much more in the way of Funding could be passed on directly to First Nations People if FN Leaders were held accountable and forced to Report the use of Government Funding through a very important First nations Transparency Act implemented by the harper Conservatives?

    For some odd reason First nations Leaders do not want to use the Funding to direct good for their membership.

    PM Justin committed a very serious Crime against ALL First nations Members when he did away with the harper Transparency Act and he should be ashamed of himself.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/08/11/justin-trudeau-first-nations-financial-transparency_n_5668640.html

    Bean –

    BTW – it is Bobby, not Barry.

    The reason I know that is my Mum used to call me that each and every day just before I marched off to School.

    She would tell me, “Don’t worry Bobby, do not listen to the Teachers, you are much smarter than you look and one day it will all work out for you, mark my Words”!!

  • 28 e.a.f. // Sep 28, 2017 at 1:49 pm

    good morning BMCQ, o.k. about the financing of First Nations and how money is spent. All of a band’s financial statements have to be signed off by some bureaucrat in Ottawa; so if there is something wrong with how money is being spent, the bureaucrats in Ottawa never did anything about it under any government, so given there were all these governments and bureaucrats signing off that all was o.k. it must have been o.k.

  • 29 BMCQ // Sep 28, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    e.a.f. – 28

    I fully agree that both Liberal and Conservatives both could have done much better for ALL First Nations People expecially Children over the past 100 plus years!

    But at the same time both Ruling Parties have done a Great Diservice to the Canadian Tax Payer for just as long.

    Unfortunately we all know the sordid details of both stories all too well.

    Having said all of that I find it absolutely unacceptable and disgusting that the PM Justin Liberal Gov would rescind the First Nations Accountability act.

    Please read the attachments in my last post.

    How anyone could not see that the Conservative First Nations Transparency Act was just and necessary is incredible.

    The Transparency Act benefitted First Nations People more than any other Group in Canada!

    That action by PM Justin makes no sense whatsoever and it is shameful.

    Just like the fact that he looked silly and juvenile at the U.N.!

    Thank God no one there was listening.