Why the BC Media Missed the BIG Story of the Leadup to the Election

I told you so! Yes, let me gloat … and hopefully then educate both my readers and the “working” media and the “professional” pundits in the province.

It was way back June 1 that I blogged ” http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/watch-for-trudeau-and-horgan-to-call-early-elections/

The media and their professional analysts/pundits … many of whom read my Blog … ignored or pooh-poohed the idea.

After all, there is a pandemic in progress; the NDP has a signed working agreement with the Greens; there will likely be a second Covid wave in the Fall … making campaigning difficult; the NDP still have a comfortable year and half to go in their mandate; and, they had promised No Snap Election in their pact with the Greens … so Horgan would not risk it all now.

So the experts thought.

I reasoned differently: governments love to go to the polls after handing out billions of dollars in giveaways .. in the BC case to almost every group you could imagine (except seniors); Horgan and Trudeau knew full well it’s better to seek a vote BEFORE all the bills come in and the governments have to start raising taxes/fees etc to start paying down the debt; the polls were terrific … virtually unprecedented public approval for Horgan and BC NDP; and a good chance to get a MAJORITY, squeezing out dependence on the Greens. Not to mention how weak the Liberal Leader Andrew Wilkinson was coming across and how the Greens were in leadership disarray.

Didn’t anyone get suspicious with all the spending announcements, all the cheques being handed out, the increasing frequency of Premier and Ministerial press briefings, all their appearances on radio talk shows or even those self-congratulatory Reports to Constituents suddenly mailed out by NDP MLAs?????

The signs were all there … at least enough to raise/explore/report the possibilities … as I did. Yet, even after I posted my Blog piece, pointing to all the evidence, I saw no follow ups, no questions, no speculation about what was happening all around.

After all, what would a Blogger know? Especially a reporter who had retired more than a decade ago?

There were none so blind as those who would not see!

How did this happen? How did the BC media and their pundits and all their talk show hosts miss the obvious …. Horgan/NDP were maneuvering BIG TIME for several months towards an early election? Or worse, if they had noticed it, why did they stay silent and not report it?

Because too many of them are too close to those they cover: preferring to drink the Koolaid (announcements, press releases, press conferences) dished out to them by their “close contacts”, who weren’t ready yet to tip their hand.

And I believe many, who should know better, actually expected the NDP would keep their word in that written agreement with the Greens, to NOT call a snap election.


You’re dealing with POLITICIANS!!! How could ANY professional reporter or columnist or talk show host believe an agreement signed more than three years ago would still be honoured by any politician in 2020!

I was heartened, however, that most of my regular Blog readers understood and … although sometimes reluctantly or grudgingly … saw/agreed with my reasoning. Horgan ” was wise and fortunate enough to have the right people in the right spots,” one commenter observed; Horgan was “on a roll” another noted.

As for those who wrote in, predicting I simply got it wrong, or were more direct: “you and your followers have lost your mind” or “Your posts have gotten regressively nuttier” … please allow me to enjoy this moment.

There, that feels good!

Personally, I expect their gamble will pay off and the NDP will win the election … and even get their desired majority. I don’t think Liberal Leader Andrew Wilkinson (or most of his MLAs/candidates) are well enough known or trusted enough to form government.

But, still staying ahead of the pack, I revealed two weeks ago, how … despite the NDP’s terrific lead in the polls … there IS still a way the Liberals could defeat the governing party: http://harveyoberfeld.ca/blog/how-bc-liberals-could-still-defeat-the-ndp/ .

It would take some bold moves and controversial positions to tap the growing popular dissent, among those who actually vote, with all the giveaways/pandering the NDP have handed out to the “gimme, gimme, gimme” crowd of activists/anarchists over the past three years.

Remember, the outcome in the last election was very, very close …both in terms of seats and popular vote.

So don’t rule the Liberals out yet…. IF they learn how to exploit these NDP’s weaknesses.

Now, let’s see how long it takes the “working” media to recognize/explore that possibility!

Harv Oberfeld

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19 Responses to Why the BC Media Missed the BIG Story of the Leadup to the Election

  1. DBW says:

    Before you gloat too much Harvey – you didn’t expect me to not fact check – here is what you said in June.

    The next provincial election is scheduled for Saturday Oct. 16, 2021 … but watch for Horgan to find or create a situation to send BC voters to the polls in May…

    and in response to someone you wrote
    “I thought about the Fall too … and that could happen IF the pandemic is under control.”
    which it really isn’t as the numbers are going up.

    And in your follow up article in response to me, who opposed the idea of the election on principle,

    “You’ll note that in the current piece and back in June, I never predicted there WOULD be a Fall or Spring election …just that both Horgan and Trudeau were doing all the classic political moves towards that possibility.

    I will still be paying off my bet. I wasn’t betting you, I was betting myself that their was some integrity left in politics. This is what I said when I made the bet

    “I hate the thought of any unnecessary election – at any time, not just during Covid – so I am going to bet that both federally and provincially, there will NOT be an election this fall.”

    I knew a couple of weeks ago that I would lose that bet when my facebook feed was filled with announcements of who was nominated and ministers were making announcements about new programs.

    And I am not worried about voting in person. Most of us shop. And kids are in school. And there will be a mail in option for those who are still worried.

    But how many people are really interested in following the campaigns in whatever weird form they take. This is strictly a “we have done good with covid” referendum.

    So yeh I am ticked at the blatant power play. I am ticked that a government would seize on an opportunity to extend their mandate with whatever promises they throw at us when they literally have a year left to implement those promises.

    Yes I will still vote for the NDP. I still like my MLA who I know more than just through news reports. So she has my vote. But here is the thing. I am not a member of the NDP but because I have known many of the candidates personally I have volunteered my time during elections – delivering flyers, canvassing with the candidate, rides to the polls etc. Not anymore.

    (Response: Let’s keep it real: the pandemic is still generally well under control throughout BC, especially in comparison with other provinces, other states, other countries. Yes the numbers are up a bit lately … but notice we are mostly still in Phase #3 Recovery status. Not really that bad! Meanwhile, you’re missing the whole point of the current blog: I said both Horgan and Trudeau were maneuvering towards an early election … and gave several signs of that. That was a gift on a platter to any news desk, any “working” reporter … especially those covering the BC legislature and/or any pundit or talk show host. Great summer topic … and a break from Covid angst! If I was still working, I would have lots of fun with that. Yes, only speculation (of course, no politician or government would ever confirm that’s what they were doing) but the job of the media is to probe, ask questions and point to growing evidence of something going on … not wait until it is so totally obvious or a press release announces a press conference. h.o)

  2. nvg says:

    As a former member(?) of CAJ you might want to suggest an underachievement (Code of Silence) award to themselves, much like their Government secrecy category.

    “CAJ (Canadian Association of Journalists) Code of Silence Award for Outstanding Achievement in Government Secrecy in the provincial category.”


    (Response: That would be funny …but I doubt the story would get covered, even if they win! 🙂 h.o)

  3. D. M. Johnston says:

    Any political contract is a mere “Scrap of paper” when the lust for power consumes a political leader.

    I will be honest, I am an old lefty, but I have not voted NDP since the late the early 90’s, as then Premier Harcourt’s NDP soured me on the party and it has been downhill ever since.

    I parked my vote elsewhere and living in Delta south, I voted for a successful independent candidate, who proved to be an excellent MLA.

    Horgan has become the new Premier Photo-op, who replaced the old Premier Photo-op by creating a slim coalition with Weaver’s Greens.

    The mainstream media today is not the classic news and journalism of your day, rather it is puff pieces, sprinkled with news, dished out with lollipops and sparkle ponies. The newspapers are mere “fishwrap” to be polite.

    Oh, Horgan had to call the election and fast because the fiscal time-bomb of covid 19 will burst like the 30 kiloton nuke in 2021 It will be time for the taxpayer to pay the piper and major unhappiness will abound.

    Wilkinson, took the bullet for weathering the BC Liberals through the money laundering scandal, but Horgan fumbled that badly and one fears he was trying to hide facts that would be embarrassing for the NDP.

    There are a lot of political land mines in this election, including:

    – A very over confident and even arrogant NDP.

    – A stumbling Liberal leader.

    – Seven missing cabinet ministers (what is the real story?).

    – Environmental time-bombs including Site C.

    – Major faux pas on both sides (including the NDP’s exclusion of a First nations Candidate for a so called star Candidate).

    – The schools issue.

    – Voter fatigue with covid-19 and the NDP

    – The so called Visonista’s who have wormed their way within the NDP hiearchy

    – And much more.

    The NDP should win but they may not.

    The Greens should get at least 5 seats, but they may be eradicated.

    The hapless liberals should get second prize but may win.

    And 2021 will be the real year in hell with massive tax hikes and loss of services.

    For me, I will park my vote with the Greens or a quality independent, upholding the myth that we do live in a democracy and my vote does count.

    (Response: I seldom decide early in a campaign how I will vote … although I may be leaning towards or against a particular party or candidate. I want to see what they offer, what they propose in terms of policies. But I can say, after what I saw from the fascist Greens at the Park Board/Stanley Park … I will definitely not vote Green! h.o)

  4. E.H. says:

    Good grief. Gloaters are so boring.

    Your opening sentence, calling your readers uneducated was enough to put me off; I didn’t finish the blog, but I did go back to read your June piece and what you actually said. Not at all deserving of a gloat.

    “Both my readers.” You should be grateful DBW is one of the two, as he is keeping it real, even if you don’t/won’t see it.


    (Response: Please don’t use other real people’s names to sign in: you wouldn’t like that done to you. I changed it to initials only. h.o)

  5. Harry Lawson says:


    The silly season is upon us again, a month long campaign seems like a lifetime.

    Horgan hopes the electorate has a short memory.,so many files have been screwed up , such as Uber , homeless,and poverty reduction, labor files , pandering to the taxi lobby, taxes ect.

    We could have almost a identical result as the last election with the greens holding the balance of power again.

    If that is the case greens could go with the liberals.

    (Response: The lying has already begun! Horgan said he called the election to put “all the politics behind us”. LOL! No. He called the election because the Libs have so far gone nowhere with their lackluster caucus/leader; the Greens are in disarray with a brand new leader; the latest polls have been terrific for the NDP; they’ve shelled out BILLIONS of taxpayers’ dollars … great way to buy votes; and the bills will have to be paid … likely starting with next Spring’s budget. This is a good time to go: too bad the BC media couldn’t or wouldn’t see what was developing as early as June and reported/speculated/questioned it then …as I’d bet the media in Ontario and Quebec would have done if it was all happening the same way there. h.o)

  6. hawgwash says:

    It will be interesting what if anything, mail in votes will have.

    Bigger “turnout”?
    No election night results?
    Florida style screw ups?

    “30 to 35 per cent of ballots could be cast by mail. In past votes, that number has been around one per cent.”

    I had intended to be at the advanced pole, right across the street, on the first morning, at 6am if necessary, to be first and safest.

    I have now requested a vote by mail package.

    (Response: I have already requested a mail-in ballot. For those who want to vote that way, here’s the link: https://elections.bc.ca/voting/how-to-vote-by-mail/. I have the greatest faith Elections BC will count/verify all the votes fairly … if they receive them before 9 p.m. voting day. My concern is Canada Post getting them all there in time … so I would urge everyone to vote EARLY, maybe as soon as the TV debates are over and/or you’ve decided … and not wait until two or three days before Election Day. h.o)

  7. Gilbert says:

    I read that the NDP and the Green Party had a written agreement which assured us that the government would not call an early election. Premier Horgan says the agreement is no longer valid because the Green Party has a new leader. I have a question for Mr. Horgan. Does the written agreement state that an early election is allowed if the Green Party leader resigns?

    It’s obvious that Premier Horgan wants to win a majority. He doesn’t care that we’re in the middle of a pandemic. When he announced that we’ll have an early election, I noticed from his body language that he looked nervous and uncomfortable. Maybe he’s not completely convinced that the early election will succeed. He must know that he’s taking a risk. I’m sure that there are voters who are upset with him and will punish him for this decision.

    I like Andrew Wilkinson. He’s an intelligent, articulate leader who will remind British Columbians that the NDP is the party of big government. Many new taxes have been introduced under this government, and they will make life more difficult for middle-class British Columbians. British Columbians have to decide if they want the tax-and-spend policies of the NDP or the free market principles of the Liberals. I hope they decide to throw out the socialists.

    (Response: That’s a very good question. Haven’t seen anybody ask it … which probably signals there is nothing in the agreement that states it would be null and void if the Green leader at the time resigned. We seemed to have moved into a whole new era in politics about 20 years ago when NOTHING said one day applies the next. Hard to believe that cabinet ministers used to step aside as soon as there was a whiff of impropriety, until the issue was resolved; when politicians’ words actually meant something(Remember: “I will NOT bring in price and wage controls?”); and when signed agreements were respected and stayed in force until the expiry date, barring some emergency situation developing … which is not the case here. And then they wonder why the public are so cynical! h.o)

  8. Edgar says:

    I think we can agree that we will are facing a both a fiscal spending and tax revenue time bomb that will be known sometime in 2021. All three levels of government are going to have to deal with it and there is only one tax payer.
    It is not possible to imagine the BC economy if international tourism and immigration levels do not return to some semblance of normalcy during 2021.
    Consequently this is going to be a false campaign. Party platforms are likely to be about recovery through the green economy, an inclusive recovery, and improved health care and not really about the choices governments will have to make next year when the true impact of the 2020 COVID-19 closures are felt. This spring the Bank of Canada stated that the impact of COVID would not be known for 12 to 18 months, when the stimulus spending of the spring is out of the economic system.
    The metaphor I prefer is having an election now is like a captain getting the crew of a sailing ship together during a hurricane to discuss where you are going and how you will sail the ship after the hurricane. Well before you know how much damage has been done to the ship.

    (Response: One challenge all the parties will face in a Covid campaign, without major rallies, speeches etc, is how to grab the Headlines and TOP radio/TV new coverage. So amazingly, despite a projected Deficit of $12.8 Billion and total debt of $79 Billion, watch for ALL parties to propose NEW and ADDITIONAL programs/spending during the campaign. That may be one of the few “traditions” that will continue from previous campaigns/elections. And people are dreaming if they think THEY won’t be hit (tax/fee increases, program cuts)to start paying it back next year. h.o)

  9. Glen Clark says:

    The decline of conventional media is pretty staggering. And with it much analysis. This clearly benefits incumbency. Although on the flip side, social media is nasty, intense and unsparing. I think most seasoned observers of politics were convinced an election was in the offing, though I can’t think of many published forums that stuck their neck out. Good for you Harvey!

    (Response: Thanks! I hope you read my response to e.a.f … detailing how different the BC media was … not once upon a time …but not that long ago. And it has nothing to do with costs or cuts or fractured audiences: it’s about having the guts to raise the questions, tell the story … not just wait for a planted “tip” or “announcement”. The strangest thing: instead of being replicated, the old journalistic award-winning ways and “style” became more and more rejected as those in charge succumbed more and more to “corporate” direction. And I have always stood up and spoken out AGAINST that … including helping unionize the BCTV Newsroom and then serving as Union Vice-President so reporters could at least try to still practice our real craft. I believe that’s why, after 38 years of both Vancouver Sun and BCTV (Global) reporting, ground-breaking and fairly popular coverage in Victoria, Ottawa, Vancouver … after I retired, there was no Lifetime Achievement Webster Award, no invites to BCTV (Global) gatherings, and so far, have been omitted completely from BCTV’s “60th Anniversary” lookbacks. BUT I would not change a thing. And responses like yours convince me that’s good. h.o)

  10. e.a.f. says:

    didn’t really think Horgan would call an election, but he did. My last comment on the subject advised I’d be sleeping until election day. Slept through his announcement, so now that I’ve woken up, yikes. If Ms. F. isn’t going to play ball or go for a ride with Mr. H. in an electric car, it may be good he called an election.

    the local media didn’t “miss” anything. In my opinion, they ignored it all. Unless they could say negative things about the NDP they aren’t interested. Having grown up reading Sima Holt and Marjory Nickels, etc. the current media don’t qualify to be in the same room as them. Even Jack Wasserman, who wrote a “salon column” covered more political issues than the current msm. Of course I do expect the msm to be covering a lot of political issues from now until election day and then suggest, via an editorial, the public vote for the B.C. Lieberals.

    Whenever I click onto your blog, the first thing I see is the pictures at the top. You with those cute young cubby cheeks and those two “slime ball politicians”. Even after reading Stevie Cameron’s On the Take, the Mulroney years, after so much time has passed, I’d never vote for him, but I can kind of get over it. Van der Zalm, not so much. Not much has changed with the Socred/B.C. Liebeals-Cons since those days. The media has. They got worse, they ceased to report and/or investigate, in my opinion.

    Of course the bills are going to come in at some future day, but most people did quite well with the Liberals in Ottawa and the NDP in Victoria. Remembering what all those Scored/B.C. Lieberal politicians had to say over the years about kids and their well being, I’m glad Horgan was in office. What did people want? No deficit and thus no money going out. How did they think people were going to survive, pay rent/mortgages, buy groceries, medication, etc. We went through COVID and most of the population did O.K. I watched the American news and read a lot of American reports. The food banks were like assembly lines. Kids went hungry, really hungry and there were vast numbers of them. I’m fine with the deficit because really I’m not so good with hungry kids or seniors or anyone for that matter. Our family has always been fortunate in this country, we never went hungry but I’ve heard stories from adults about hunger during WW II and you know it really was most unpleasant and babies actually died. So I’m good with a deficit. The alternative isn’t pleasant. Kids who aren’t fed properly don’t do well in school or life in general and it has a lasting effect. I’m sure lots will think the B.C. Lieberals can do better, but I’ve watched their dog and pony show since oh around 1958/9. I can remember Grace McCarthy refusing to send welfare cheques out before Christmas as had been the custom because people “would spend it on their children at Christmas”. My Mom’s favorite was Van der Zalm’s comment about how Mothers didn’t let their children go hungry during the War. should have heard my Mom about that, given they were of the same country and knew him socially. (I can’t write — o.k. Mom said there were only two classes of women’s whose children didn’t go hungry). Nothing has changed since those days and if the people of B.C. want to elect the B.C. Lieberals the next time the province/ country has a real problem don’t expect much. They’ll be more worried about their friends and the deficit and lowering taxes for corporations. Remember during the 16 years the B.C. Lieberals reigned, B.C. had the highest rate of child poverty for 15 yrs. in Canada, the other year we tied with Manitobia because they’d cancelled a program which they then re instituted.

    I’m not arguing the NDP is perfect. There are many who don’t like Site C or all sorts of other things, as in they’re not Green enough, not done enough, but really what did the B.C .Lieberals do for the kids while they were in office–yes I know they don’t vote so who cares. Its just kids grow up and if they have had miserable childhoods there is a good chance they’ll be miserable adults and that is a whole other problem.

    The B.C. Lieberals didn’t do much for most people in this province during their years in office and weren’t always truthful about deficits. wasn’t there one year el gordo had those German ferries built, borrowed almost an extra billion, charged it to B.C. Ferries, put the money in to general revenue, announced the budget was balanced and then called an election? Ya, worked well for them, but the kids in this province not so much. School budgets were slashed. Not much done about the drug problem when it started. Lets not forget the money laundering and the B.C. Lieberals closing down police units which could/would have investigated that. while Alberta banned pill presses, Christy Clark did nothing except have wonderful private expensive soirees to raise money for re election. Do some of you remember Christy and Pammie’s breakfast room charge while in Asia for over $700 or taking their videographer with them to record the events while some teachers were feeding kids out of their own pockets. Lets see Christie claimed she needed that $14M she clawed back from children nickel for nickel while they were living 50% below the poverty line. Remember any of it? Didn’t think so.

    From what I can see Horgan focused on dealing with the drug problems we have, health care, education, and housing for the homeless. Works for me.

    So yes Harvey you were correct once again. Keep up the good work.

    (Response: Thanks. I needed that. 🙂 I have been thinking about the reactions to this current blog. I actually agree somewhat with those who say I shouldn’t have gloated … not a nice thing to do. BUT I think in hammering it out, I was a bit frustrated, because I am old school: I believe the media has a DUTY to hold the politicians’ feet to the fire, and it was so clear how Horgan (and Trudeau) were maneuvering …at least enough to raise questions to them! Yet, even when I pointed it out, there was silence, from colleagues who had a good story handed to them on a platter. At least ASK ABOUT IT and GET THEM ON RECORD!!! You mention Marjorie Nichols … the late terrific Vancouver Sun columnist. A hero of mine, who I have written about before as being instrumental, along with Jack Webster, in getting me to move from The Vancouver Sun’s Legislative Bureau to BCTV’s Legislative Bureau. I know Marjorie and Jack and also Rafe Mair and even Pat Burns would have gone after the story … way back in June. THAT’S what made them SPECIAL … and I like to think, if they’re looking down … THEY would have said in June, Well Done H.O.!!! And I suspect they’d be happy that I kicked my colleagues around now too … not staying silent and pointing out how such a great story was missed … so maybe it won’t be next time, even if the idea comes from a mere “blogger”. h.o)

  11. nonconfidencevote says:

    Well, while a wont vote for the ndp and the greens are still too “out there” for my liking.
    Andrew Wilkinson has to be the worst Leader since Christie Clark.
    A cadaver has more charisma.
    Oh well………….Into the breech I go………..

    (Response: There’s a pandemic on, a lot of people are unhappy an election was called more than a year before it was scheduled, and even the weather is turning nasty … so a lot can happen with people’s moods before Oct 24. And charisma doesn’t always result in the best choice… so I think a lot will depend on what the Libs/NDP offer in terms of tax cuts and other promises … and how the debates go. h.o)

  12. Gilbert says:

    I agree that Andrew Wilkinson is not so charismatic. If voters focus on charisma, John Horgan will win. That’s very shallow, but it explains why people like Justin Trudeau get elected.

    If they look at Andrew Wilkinson’s qualifications and listen to his ideas, though, he has an excellent chance. It’s time to elect a government that doesn’t treat British Columbians like beggars.

    (Response: That’s why I think the debates and the platform will prove important as people decide. Plus, I’ve noticed something else that could out to be quite important: will blog about it next week. h.o)

  13. DBW says:

    Are we talking about the upcoming election or how the current media sucks. So far most of the responses here are talking about the election so why wait for next week (response to noncon) to tell us what could turn this around. I prefer you quotable not gloatable.

    To start, here is the latest Insite West poll.

    NDP 42%
    Liberal 29%
    Green 16%
    Conservative 12%

    I am no expert, but last election the Conservatives received .5% (point 5 if your eyes are bad like mine are) of the vote. Then they didn’t have a leader, but will the current leader (bonus points if you can name him without looking him up as I had to), guide the party to 12% or will all those people end up voting with the Liberals as they likely did last time. Add the 12 to 29 and we end up with 42 to 41 to 16 which is remarkably similar to the 40 to 40 to 17 of the last election.

    On top that 20% of those polled are undecided. Where will they go?

    And on top of that 58% of people are not happy with the decision to call an election even 35% of NDP supporters. I wasn’t asked but I would have been one of the 7% of NDP supporters who fall in the strongly disapprove. Will the people who disapprove be motivated to get out to vote or at least get a mail in ballot. (get your ballot here if you are wondering https://eregister.electionsbc.gov.bc.ca/ovr/#)

    And I can’t find the article now without spending a lot of time but if memory serves 12 Liberal seats were won by less than a 10% margin while 10 NDP seats were won by the same margin. How many seats can be flipped one way or another for a majority to result.

    If this turns out to be another minority, we might still be doing this again next October.

    (Response: Actually, if you read the headline and the blog itself, it’s clearly supposed to more about the media than the campaign. We’ll all have enough time to discuss the latter before Oct 24! But in view of how some responses on here used to go so WAY off topic, I think, looking at the responses to this one, no one can be blamed for getting to the campaign, which interests most much more than my own biased frustrations with BC’s media. h.o.)

  14. hawgwash says:

    5 days in and 160,000 have ordered mail in votes. Will those make a difference? Perhaps only in how long it takes to reach a final result.

    I suspect many of those mail votes will be people who normally go to advanced polls, to avoid rushes and crowds; 600,000 of them in 2017.

    Anyway, I will be watching to see if the “NDP” eat their own as they are often known to do.

    Teachers and medical folks are grousing. Can ICBC, BCF and BCGEU be far behind?

    School and daycare parents are upset. Vancouver Island and coastal residents are bent because (perceived) hordes of outsiders overwhelmed the ferries, took over Sechelt and Tofino, with no authoritative pushback.

    COVID-19 has people, normally calm logical people, uptight and cranky. They need an out. They need to blame.

    People do strange, secretive things behind closed doors, so will Mr. Horgan receive the equivalent of the illogical, reactionary, HST flogging?

    There are a lot of ridings without candidates. Such a short time to establish name recognition and I’m still waiting to see who the NDP nominates in my riding.

    Adam Olsen is a nice man and a better candidate than the 2017 NDP incumbent, but just as ineffective.

    All this is to say, in my opinion, there are too many personalities and attitudes among voters to predict an NDP slam dunk and resultant gloat, at this point.

    DBW; “I prefer you quotable not gloatable” made my day before the sun was up. It will stick in my head like an ABBA song.

    (Response: I don’t see anything the NDP has done … despite their vulnerability to criticisms for why/when the called the election and some of their policies … that has “HST flogging” potential. But I believe they are vulnerable for their handling of the homeless problem … buying up hotels in/near downtown areas to house them .. oblivious to the horrible impact that has on businesses, shoppers, residents, children nearby. If the Liberals have enough savvy to zero in on that. h.o)

  15. DBW says:

    OK, if the topic is the media and just to be contrarian… All this nostalgia about the good old days sounds just as silly as my telling my kids that nothing today compares to the Beatles and the Stones (like my dad who said nothing compares to Sinatra and Connie Francis) but when I put on a general record of the 60s I realize that a lot of those groups were pretty lame. We can say the same about classic TV and sports heroes. We only remember the great ones and forget about the junk and average players

    Webster and Mair and Nichols were great like Mantle and Mays but there are some long forgotten duds that are – thankfully – long forgotten.

    A teacher colleague used to laugh that people would complain about the failings of the school system and when asked when the failing started it was always right after they graduated because who wants to admit that they got an inferior education.

    I say all this because to “keep it real” we have to look through a proper lens to get the whole picture.

    As far as I can tell, most of us here are looking for the traditional news sources. Today we are overwhelmed by news sources. Some people consider late night comedians and youtube and facebook as their news sources. Obviously people here consider you a part of their news information like they would other bloggers they follow. I like listening to podcasts. The problem today is too many people watch the CNN and Fox types shows (Cuoma, Lemon, Carlson, Hannity) and think they are getting news when they are just getting opinion packaged as a kind of professional wrestling entertainment.

    There is no doubt that journalism/journalists are struggling trying to keep up with changing times. And they are not being all that successful. But this has been ongoing for several years. News consumers want their news like their burgers – fast and simple. Good burgers get lost but they are still out there.

    (Response: It is not …or at least should not …be nostalgic to recall/support/demand more incisive, demanding, cynical questioning of politicians and their decisions/policies .. and, frankly, their lies. Reporters (not just me) used to regularly confront them when they did that …not just regurgitate the latest statement-du-jour. Sure, most of the politicians (with some admirable exceptions) from all the parties did not like me when I did that for decades … there went my Order of BC (LOL!)… but they viewers really did! And that always made it well worth it h.o)

  16. Jason says:

    Kudos to you Sir, you called it right! I completely agree with you about the credulity in a lot of the media and some in the public about the coalition agreement between the NDP and the Greens. Of course Horgan was going to bail out of it as soon as it was to his advantage. Politicians are power hungry and unscrupulous, surprise, surprise . . . In related news, water is wet and snow is cold!

    What I’m curious about is why Andrew Weaver left the Green Caucus, when he resigned from the leadership. Is their discontent in the Green ranks? There wasn’t much coverage about it. Considering the precarious nature of the government and how badly the Greens are performing in Vancouver, it might have been interesting to hear more about it.

    Slightly off topic, but I think the early dissolution shows a couple of problems. The first is these laws on Fixed Legislative Terms at the Provincial and Federal levels. People are saying Horgan is ‘breaking the law’ by calling the early election. But there are no set Constitutional rules on Legislative Terms or Election Dates in Canada, as there are in the United States, for example. There are Constitutional conventions on the length of terms and the role of the Crown in dissolution etc. It seems to me these Fixed Term Laws are pointless and don’t really suit the Westminster system.

    Another problem is the whole notion of coalition governments and the growing demands for some kind of proportional representation (of course the last referendum failed but I have a feeling there will be continued calls for PR in the coming few years).

    A lot of people say they like this non-partisan, non-confrontational provincial government from 2017-20. But again the trouble is we don’t have Constitutional rules around how parliaments are supposed to work with multiple parties in government, not like they do in European countries like Germany or in states like Israel. People might be angry that Horgan broke his written agreement with the Greens but the agreement had no Constitutional basis. Horgan broke his word (again a politician breaking a promise . . . surprise, surprise) but he didn’t break any law. We have conventions around supply and confidence arrangements but that’s all really.

    If electoral reform is ever implemented, there are big Constitutional issues that have to be addressed first or there could be a mess. The Westminster system has its faults but at least it gives us stable governments and the opportunity to change direction quickly if needed. And I suppose we have that chance in a few weeks time.

    (Response: Thanks. Since I’m “retired” I did not delve into any background reasons for Weaver announcing his intention in Oct to retire or in January to leave the Greens altogether (he cited family health issues). However, I suspect there was something more at work, such as he (like me) not liking what he saw as the Greens became more and more radical. He has even been quoted as called one Furstenau idea (a four day work week) “kooky”. Weaver is now, I believe, closer in mindset to the NDP than the Greens. As for fixed election days, I don’t believe there could be any way …nor should there be … to prevent a government, or the Lt Gov, to call an election even if there are “fixed” voting dates. Special circumstances should always be able to override the set date: the issue for the voters to decide is whether a government does it for good reason, or just because the timing looks good politically … and then reward or punish them accordingly. h.o)

  17. e.a.f. says:

    My take on it at the time, was that Weaver, who I didn’t care much for, knows what reality is. He understood it was better to have an NDP government than B.C. Lieberal. It may have been that the rest of the Greens didn’t care. They were going to be “pure and true” to their principles. that is all well in good in theory, but the reality is, politicians have to do “business”.

    (Edited …off topic)

    If we re elect the B.C. Lieberals, the money laundering business will be up and running immediately and the real estate business will be ever so happy and those who benefit from it. That money laundering business and what went on in the casinos is enough reason to not want the B.C. Lieberals back in office until every last one of them, who was in government during that time, are out of the party. Money laundering is never good in a country. People think its a victimless crime but as we saw in Richmond, shootings kill and sometimes innocent by standers can be killed also. Then as money launderers move into “legitimate businesses”, well its never a good thing. Its insidious. It eats away at the fabric of society. It contributes nothing to the tax base, because all that money avoids paying taxes also. Money launders buy businesses, which are legitimate, buildings, houses, malls, etc. If you’re not willing to sell, they’ll convince you.

    (edited…off topic.)

    Lets not also forget about the interesting happenings in the Speakers office.

    those of us getting older might want to think about winding up in care homes. the first to die were in care homes and they got into that condition during the 16 yrs. of B.C. Lieberal governance. Want to die in one of those places?

    it isn’t about the economy. Our country has gotten through a lot of bad times. The first food bank in Canada was started on Vancouver Island. We got through the dirty thirties and we got through the 70s and 80s when the biggest pay roll in Kelowna were the UIC cheques. There were towns in the 1970s in the Kootenays where the official unemployment rate was 15%, but it was actually closer to 30%.

    What you can’t get through is dying of COVID or getting killed in a drive by shooting by money launderers.

  18. DBW says:

    1.Covid has given me too much time to look up stuff.

    2. Google is amazing. I don’t understand why people come on here asking questions instead of using it.

    3. Here is a link about Weaver. https://theprovince.com/opinion/columnists/mike-smyth-andrew-weaver-explains-why-he-left-the-green-party-caucus

    4. In the article, written on January 18, Weaver was asked if his decision “could push the province closer to a snap election”. He replied “I’m not trying to trigger an election. I’ll be there to ensure the stability of the government as best I can. But I wouldn’t be surprised if there is an election, to be honest. They’re going to be dealing with a new Green leader. And the New Democrats will look at their own polling. They may want to seek a new mandate and try to achieve a majority. That’s their decision to make.”

    Then we got distracted by covid and the Greens had to delay electing their leader, but it appears that Smyth and Weaver were speculating long before anybody.

    (Response: Thanks for the link. Interesting read. But I never accept what any politician says as the full truth, the whole truth or anything but the truth … especially when not under oath. h.o)

  19. hawgwash says:

    Ok, since this has morphed into an election blog…

    Andrew Wilkinson has often been described as aloof and/or out of touch; often because he says stuff that just rubs the wrong way, especially with those not residing in Quilchena, BC’s second highest income riding.

    I have read and heard some of these perceived insensitive gaffs and usually understand what he is getting at, but it really can come across as arrogant. Often making it worse, is his lame back peddling, usually preceded with an indignant “what???”

    The following is such a case. He is, perhaps inadvertently, politicising COVID-19, making it appear as though he is somehow smarter than both Horgan and Dr. Henry as well as indicating he might meddle.

    To Premier Horgan’s credit he has been “hands off” the Health Ministry during this time, leaving Dix and Henry to do their jobs.

    I didn’t go very far into the article, before just shaking my head and leaving it. I suspect many voters would react the same.

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