BC to Use Vaccine Recipients for INVOLUNTARY Medical Experiment

Since when did it become ethical … or legal … to do medical experiments using human beings who did NOT volunteer for it?

The BC government announced Monday it will use its own citizens to test if the second Covid vaccine dose can be delayed for up to FOUR MONTHS without serious adverse impact.

The rationale, according to Dr. Bonnie Henry, is that delaying the second dose will free up more vaccine for first doses, and thus protect more people. Even though the deviation goes substantially BEYOND the prescribed timeline for the second dose by the companies producing the vaccines.

Get the details of the BC plan here: https://infotel.ca/newsitem/breaking-bc-to-delay-second-dose-of-covid-19-vaccine-to-four-month-mark/it81232

Within hours, Ontario announced it is also looking at the same four month delay proposed by BC.

“Health Minister Christine Elliott and Solicitor General Sylvia Jones said that the province is “actively engaged” with the National Advisory Committee on Immunization (NACI) regarding potential updated direction on second dose intervals with “the goal of pursuing a similar direction to British Columbia, ” according to a story on the website CP24.

You can read all about that here: https://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-wants-to-push-back-second-dose-of-covid-19-vaccines-to-four-months-1.5329115

And there is speculation the National Advisory Committee on Immunization may soon echo/support BC’s decision.


Is that what we’re doing now? Taking away people’s right to get a medical vaccine without also participating in some government plan of experimentation?

Keep delaying the second dose of a vaccine until some DO start to get sick … or die?

Both Pfizer and Moderna, after testing many thousands of VOLUNTEERS, came to the conclusion the second dose should be given 21 to 28 days after the first.

As far as I can see, THAT is still their position … and it’s their vaccine, so I trust THEIR scientific conclusion.

But the politicians got involved … promised huge vaccination numbers … faster than could possibly be delivered … looking very bad when it didn’t happen.

That’s when talk began of delaying the second dose, ignoring Pfizer and Moderna’s monographs, but enabling more people to get a first dose.

First they suggested it was safe to delay the second dose to 35 days … and then 42; then 90; and now 120 days.

On the basis of scientifically controlled studies or volunteer-driven, supervised experimentation programs???

No. Apparently not.

And I find that unethical …and scary.

In fact, Canada’s own Chief Science Advisor Mona Nemer called it a “population level experiment” in a CBC interview Monday.

“I think it’s really important that we stick with the data and with the great science that give us these fantastic vaccines, and not tinker with it,” she said. 

“If provinces want to find out if the interval between the first and second doses can be extended to 16 weeks, she said, those provinces should conduct proper clinical trials by registering participants and explaining to them the possible advantages and disadvantages of taking part.”

Read the full story here: “https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nemer-henry-vaccine-interval-experiment-1.5932714.

“She said that while such trials might show that it’s safe to extend the interval to four months, Canada is not there yet,” the CBC reported.  

“For now, we simply don’t have enough data that tells us this is an effective strategy, particularly when we think that we have variants of the virus that are emerging that are not as well recognized by the vaccine,” Nemer said. 

She is not alone.

“There is a risk in this approach,” said Dr. Alberto Martin, professor of immunology at the University of Toronto in January, when the delay bandwagon first took to the road.

It’s possible that a large fraction of these individuals will not develop full immunity and thereby waste many of these doses,” he told Global News.

I do fear if the second vaccine dose IS delayed for 120 days , some people will get sick, some will die.

People are NOT laboratory animals.

And should not be used to carry out experiments unless they VOLUNTARILY sign up to take part.

Should make for really interesting, and possibly very costly Court cases if/when some DO get Covid and the victims … or their surviving families … sue the provincial governments for ignoring the vaccine manufacturers’ monographs and delaying second doses for months longer than they should have.

Harv Oberfeld

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Why I Will NOT Take the Astra-Zeneca Covid Vaccine

Canada’s politicians know they are looking bad. Very bad!

Our country is now reportedly 57th in the world when it comes to percentages of population vaccinated against Covid.

It’s embarrassing … given all the announcements they made about how many millions of vaccines/doses Canada had ordered …more than any other country in the world. But apparently no one arranged early delivery dates for Canada: maybe that’s why they are refusing to make public any of the contracts they signed.

What the government hasn’t been able to hide is how almost every day, Canada has been moving lower and lower on the world’s vaccination scale.

57th now!!

With only two companies’ vaccines having received approval until now from Health Canada: Pfizer and Moderna.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his Liberal government clearly bungled the vaccine deliveries and for weeks have desperately been calling, appealing, begging pharmaceutical companies and other countries to come to our aid.

Friday Health Canada came to the government’s rescue: announcing approval for the UK’s Astra-Zeneca’s dual-dose Covid vaccine after months of study/evaluation.

Within minutes, Trudeau, Health Minister Patti Hajdu and Procurement Minister Anita Anand were LIVE on television to announce 22 million doses of Astra-Zeneca’s vaccine will be on their way to Canada … starting near the end of March.

Just when seniors in BC 70 to 80 are scheduled to start getting vaccinated in BC.

I will NOT take it … if it’s Astra Zeneca.

It is not that I am a vaccine opponent: to the contrary, I have waited with great anticipation to get my Covid jab.

But, Health Canada said Friday the efficacy rate of the Astra Zeneca vaccine OVERALL is only 62.1 per cent … well below Pfizer and Moderna’s efficacy ratings above 90 per cent.

And according to Health Canada, only 9.7 per cent of the 8,800 people tested with the Astra Zeneca vaccine were over 65 years old. Health Canada officials said they have no data on what the specific efficacy rate was for seniors.

However, what is undeniable, that’s a very small group of seniors testing …and a comparatively lower efficacy rate than Pfizer and Moderna.

Astra Zeneca officials have since contended followups with millions of Scots who took their vaccine showed a much higher efficacy rate … over 90%.

Nevertheless, Ontario Premier Doug Ford said Friday his province will only administer the AZ vaccine to those under 65.

In fact, according to media reports, several European countries already limit the AZ vaccines to people UNDER 65 and some even UNDER 55.

But In BC, Premier John Horgan waffled when asked: refusing to rule it out for seniors.

As a senior, with a number of health conditions, I will make my own decision: I will REFUSE the AZ vaccine.

The BC government should not push it on seniors … just to boost its dismal vaccination numbers.

I will wait as long as it takes to get a vaccine with the best efficacy for my age/health group.

It’s time for the BC government to act, not just deliver rhetoric about how they value seniors, and ensure those over 65 get the vaccine they need and deserve.

For younger or healthy adults, who statistically suffer fewer serious illness and hospitalizations from Covid than seniors, the AZ vaccine could allow authorities to speed up the numbers of those getting inoculated.

Perhaps ideal for front-line workers: truckers; teachers; grocery clerks; transit workers; hotel workers etc.

The good news: no one in the test groups who took that AZ vaccine, and still developed Covid, died or needed to be hospitalized. So it does offer protection, but many seniors trust Pfizer and Moderna.

The BC government should not try to FORCE the AZ vaccine on seniors, especially those with pre-conditions.

If Horgan/Henry try to push the AZ vaccine on those who don’t want it, the rate of those who refuse to get vaccinated will shoot up, increase the mistrust … and delay BC’s recovery, healthwise and economically, even longer.

Harv Oberfeld.

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